[Peace-discuss] The money was there all along

E. Wayne Johnson ewj at pigs.ag
Fri Oct 17 11:13:26 CDT 2008


Wheat is fermentable just like corn but is not cost-effective even with 
the subsidy at the present market price.
Actually grain prices have risen so high that even with the heavy subsidies
some ethanol plants are starting to close their doors
(which is a good thing) while others are continuing to operate.

Soy oil can be burned directly in diesel engines as SVO (straight 
vegetable oil)
but SVO needs heating in cold weather.  Soy oil is already
hydrolysed and esterified to produce so-called "biodiesel".

...but Real productivity is what we need. 

Burning food for fuel is really not productivity, it's actually a
non-productive process that turns a high neg-entropic product into 
something for a lower value use
and it only works because of the government subsidy and mandate 
program.  In a free market economy
we would  only have ethanol from non-food sources or foodstuffs not 
suitable for consumption (moldy grains for instance).

But it's not a problem of free markets vs managed economy.  The Chinese 
were smart enough to recognize the
ethanol craze for the insanity that it was and is,  while the "money 
crooked fingers" of our "democratically elected government" saw
great opportunity and still pushes biofuel even as it becomes obvious 
that it simply doesnt make any sense.

Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
> I have been wondering lately if the US produces anything to sell 
> abroad anymore, now that the service industry has replaced 
> manufacturing re providing jobs. Agricultural products, I guess... at 
> least until somebody figures out how to turn wheat and soybeans into 
> gasoline.
>  --Jenifer
>
> --- On *Fri, 10/17/08, E. Wayne Johnson /<ewj at pigs.ag>/* wrote:
>
>     From: E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag>
>     Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] The money was there all along
>     To: "John W." <jbw292002 at gmail.com>
>     Cc: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
>     Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 5:01 AM
>
>     Yes.
>
>     But that's hard work sometimes.  ;-)
>
>     John W. wrote:
>>     Well, either way - borrowing the money or "printing" it - it's
>>     fiscally irresponsible and unsustainable.  That was my point.  A
>>     viable economy has to be based on ACTUAL productivity - making
>>     REAL things that the world needs - and not just on shuffling
>>     papers around to create the illusion of prosperity.
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