[Peace-discuss] [Fwd: [ronpaul-1218] Fwd: Reply from Congressman Emanuel Cleaver (Impeachment of Cheney)]

[John W.]

The bottom line is what he says at the end of paragraph three:  "The votes
are not there."  Non-politicians seem not to understand that simple fact.

I remember when Dick Durbin was trying to explain that to us once on a
conference call.  Some of my AWARE compatriots were expressing moral outrage
over something or other, and wanting Dick to do likewise.  Dick was busy
counting votes.

Nothing I say here, of course, is meant to excuse the moral cowardice of
those who purport to represent us and whose votes are elsewhere.

John Wason


On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 12:11 PM, E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag> wrote:

 Emanuel Cleaver is a Democrat in the Kansas City area.  He is being
> challenged by
> Jacob Turk who has the support of libertarian activists in the Kansas City
> based
> Liberty Restoration Project.  Cleaver voted for the bailout.  Here he
> responds
> to questions about Impeaching Cheney the Vice president.
>
> Interesting that Emanuel Cleaver appeals to comity and conservation of
> energy in Congress
> as an excuse for not doing his job.
>
> Enjoy.
>
> -------- Original Message --------  Subject: [ronpaul-1218] Fwd: Reply
> from Congressman Emanuel Cleaver (Impeachment of Cheney)  Date: Wed, 22
> Oct 2008 11:25:25 -0400  From: mild816 <nerfmild at gmail.com><nerfmild at gmail.com>  Reply-To:
> ronpaul-1218 at meetup.com  To: ronpaul-1218 at meetup.com
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Congressman Emanuel Cleaver <mo05ima at mail.house.gov>
> Date: Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 9:27 AM
> Subject: Reply from Congressman Emanuel Cleaver
> To: nerfmild at gmail.com
>
>
>  Dear Kevin:
>
>            Thank you for contacting me regarding House Resolution 333, a
> bill calling for the impeachment of the Vice President.  I appreciate
> hearing from you on this important issue and I apologize for the delay in
> responding to you.
>
> As you may know, H.Res. 333 is a resolution that calls for impeachment of
> the Vice President for high crimes and misdemeanors.  The measure sets forth
> articles of impeachment charging that the Vice President has purposely:
> manipulated the intelligence process to deceive the citizens and Congress of
> the United States about a threat of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, and
> about an alleged relationship between Iraq and al Qaeda, to justify the use
> of the U.S. Armed Forces against Iraq in a manner damaging to U.S. national
> security interests; has openly threatened aggression against Iran absent any
> real threat to the United States, and has done so with the U.S. proven
> capability to carry out such threats, thus undermining U.S. national
> security.
>
> Article II Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution states, "The President, Vice
> President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed
> from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or
> other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."  The power to impeach the President
> rests with the House of Representatives.  While I certainly have very clear
> and deep policy and philosophical differences with the Vice President and
> the Administration, I believe that the Congress must focus its efforts on
> addressing the challenges facing us abroad and here at home.  While the
> President may well have done things which merit impeachment, but with less
> than eighteen months remaining in this Administration, why bother with a
> president strolling down what the New York Evening Post once dubbed, "Lame
> Duck Alley".  The President is already a has-been.  Impeachment, with its
> toxic impact on the body politic and the nation, should be the last result.
> It may, for some, provide psychological pleasure, but please know that the
> votes are not there.  Impeachment will drain the Congress of the comity and
> energy to get things done.
>
> H.Res. 333 has been referred to the House Judiciary Committee for further
> consideration.  History will impeach this Administration.  It will be
> incumbent upon this new 110th Congress to move forward in an effective
> manner so as to provide real solutions to the real problems confronting our
> nation.  You can rest assured that I am closely monitoring the Executive
> Branch and will keep your concerns in mind as we learn more details about
> the Administration's activities that may have exceeded its statutory or
> Constitutional authority.
>
>            Again, thank you for sharing your views with me.  Please do not
> hesitate to contact me in the future if I may be of further assistance.
> Also, I encourage you to visit my website at http://www.house.gov/cleaver,
> where you can sign up for my electronic newsletter and receive updates on my
> latest activities as your Representative.
>
>
> Sincerely
>
> Emanuel Cleaver, II
>
> Member of Congress
>
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