[Peace-discuss] Eyes Only: AWARE. In re AOTA
C. G. Estabrook
galliher at uiuc.edu
Wed Oct 22 16:26:22 CDT 2008
Damn right -- I hadn't heard of SLC's remark and so used to tell my students
just to avoid intensifiers...
I think our viewership probably amounts to not much more than twain (and they've
probably met).
Is the remark by Twain on statisticians, "There are three kinds of lies: lies,
damned lies, and statistics"? (I gather he attributed it to Disraeli, a proper
politician.)
Auden riffed on the theme in his advice to students, the wonderful "Under Which
Lyre - A Reactionary Tract for the Times":
"Thou shalt not answer questionnaires
Or quizzes upon World-Affairs,
Nor with compliance
Take any test. Thou shalt not sit
With statisticians nor commit
A social science."
Vox clemens in deserto, no doubt. --CGE
E. Wayne Johnson wrote:
> Carl, your Chinese is accurate and displays nicely on my screen here.
>
> Reminds me very much of the remark that Clemens made about the use of
> intensifiers.
> /"Substitute "damn" every time you're inclined to write "very";
> your editor will delete it and the writing will be just as it should
> be.// /"
>
> Since Chinese uses some implicit shorthand it is better to allow a
> explanation of meaning rather than to give a word for word translation.
>
> I am also reminded of the remark by Twain about Statisticians,
> but choose to accept with due measure of clemency that
> the smallest unit of accretion in viewership is exponential.
>
> C. G. Estabrook wrote:
>> Some thoughts about "AWARE on the Air," as it has developed in recent
>> weeks:
>>
>> (N.B.: these notes are meant only for the Made Members of AWARE [hence
>> the Eyes Only designation] -- altho' Wayne may remind us that Māde [妈
>> 的] is the most common Chinese vulgar curse word...)
>>
>> As the audience for AOTA increases exponentially, we need to think
>> about how we do it. In what my shrink friends call "regression in
>> defense of the ego," I propose a model from my intellectual infancy:
>> the graduate seminar.
>>
>> It has happened (undoubtedly under the influence of the redoubtable
>> gods of the air) that people have been bringing quite brilliant
>> comments to the Tuesday tapings of AOTA. Linda, Ron and Wayne did that
>> today, and Karen and I added our animadversions.
>>
>> I suggest that we formalize this arrangement just a bit, in order that
>> each comment get its proper consideration; that after each comment the
>> others present reflect on it seriatim (with of course the presenter
>> given time to respond if s/he wishes); and that each discussion occupy
>> a proportionate amount of the time available, after the initial
>> summary of recent and upcoming local events. There is of course no
>> reason to be illiberal in this arrangement.
>>
>> All AWAREists are encouraged to come and participate, with the
>> understanding that you will get a (roughly) equal share of the time,
>> according to the principle of "from each of you according to your
>> means, to each of you according to your needs" -- subject only to the
>> "conditions of concision" imposed by that fell sergeant, Time.
>>
>> It's only an hour's program. Come join us: tell the truth, and shame
>> the devil.
>>
>> Yr. obdt. servt., CGE
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