[Peace-discuss] Fw: Re: Ralph Nader: Tragedy to Farce

[Jenifer Cartwright]

What Congress did was after the fact, as was the FL debacle, and then what the Supreme Court did. NONE of that would have come into play w/o Nader's presence in the 2000 election... and it's incredible that he's doing it again... and that people are falling for it... again!
 --Jenifer 

--- On Sun, 9/7/08, Tom Abram <tabram at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Tom Abram <tabram at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Fw: Re: Ralph Nader: Tragedy to Farce
To: jencart13 at yahoo.com
Cc: "Peace-discuss List" <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
Date: Sunday, September 7, 2008, 6:14 PM



Nader is magnitudes less to blame for the Iraq War than the Democrats who actually voted to authorize force and continue to fund the occupation.  Claiming his participation in the electoral process as a non-corporate party candidate to be a farce is nothing less than political bigotry.  I will be voting for the Green's candidate, Cynthia McKinney, but I still support Nader's right to run, attain ballot access, and enter the debates.  I wish others would have the same respect for an open democracy.

Tom


On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 5:58 PM, Jenifer Cartwright <jencart13 at yahoo.com> wrote:














A kinder gentler view of Nader than my own...
 --Jenifer

--- On Sun, 9/7/08, Helene Feiner  wrote:


 Hi all,

I'm so upset with Nader. This presidential election monkey wrenching 
has sure changed my opinion of him. I agree that our system needs to be 
changed but not by essentially throwing support to the Republicans. 
This reporter echoes how I feel about him.

By James Fallows
Ralph Nader: tragedy to farce

24 Feb 2008 11:00 am

I have liked and admired Ralph Nader so much. I first worked for him 
when I was in my teens (and he was in his 30s). Under his auspices, 
encouragement, and relentless pressure, I'd written two books for his 
organization by the time I was 23 -- if only I'd been able to keep up 
that pace! Or that sales success, since one of them -- Who Runs 
Congress, turned out in eight weeks, with Mark Green and David Zwick 
--- eventually sold in the millions.

Nader was funny, warm, brilliant-seeming, and, yes, caring. He visited 
my wife in the hospital after our first child was born. For years after 
that, he never failed to ask about both of our kids (or my wife) 
whenever I talked with him. I say all this as an indication of why 
Ralph Nader has so many people who actually are loyal to him -- and who 
wish they didn't have to face the reality about the choices he has made 
over the last eight years.

That he stayed in the race in 2000 was tragedy. (See: Invasion of Iraq, 
2003, and subsequent occupation.) That he came back in 2004 was 
unfortunate; his entry in 2008 is farce. Farce because it suggests 
detachment from political reality (the differences between the 
Republican and Democratic nominees are so faint that we can say, What 
the hell!) and, worse, narcissism. The fact that it won't make any 
difference in the outcome actually is sad.

I will always like and respect Ralph Nader and will always admire the 
wonderful things he has done. But I wish to God that he had not made 
this decision, or will reverse it soon. (And, I am sorry that saying 
this will make me an enemy in his eyes.) He is a better man than his 
recent decisions indicate.




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