[Peace-discuss] We agree with Ron Paul: McKinney, Baldwin, Nader

[E. Wayne Johnson]

Now, Robert, that is a wild, incredible, and absurd statement
and I am really surprised at it coming from you.

We in the R3volution really do try to maintain a high standard of truth 
and credibility not just
casting about and propagating rumours and misinformation.  Michael 
Nystrom is a personal
friend of mine.  Although he permits free expression of views in posting 
on his Daily Paul blog,
he does have high regard for the truth. 

Please do not be so careless in your flinging about of aspersions, 
because in this
case you are indeed mistaken in your points.

To quote Robert's Rules of Order --- Point of Information
There was indeed a press conference this morning broadcast on C-Span and 
I did see Cynthia McKinney
and RP although I only caught the end of it, and I am told that Nader 
was there.

There will be a YouTube soon so you can decide if there was really a 
press conference or not.

It's just my two cents, but perhaps that should return $200 to me :-)





Robert Naiman wrote:
> As far as I can tell, there was no such press conference and no such
> joint statement.
>
> Somebody posted a statement on a Ron Paul website claiming that these
> were areas of agreement, not claiming that there was a joint statement
> of agreement.
>
> That Ralph Nader would have signed off on this statement is highly implausible.
>
> In particular, as far as I know, Ralph Nader does not advocate getting
> rid of the Federal Reserve function of regulating the money supply.
> Nor does he advocate "pay as you go" budget rules, which, in practice,
> are quite reactionary in their impact.
>
> This is the sentence that tipped me off:
>
> "The arbitrary power to create money and credit out of thin air behind
> closed doors for the benefit of commercial interests must be ended."
>
> That sentence was written by a Ron Paul supporter - someone who wants
> to abolish the Federal Reserve, the US central bank.  I will wager a
> thousand dollars against a dime that Ralph Nader never signed off on
> it.
>
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:41 AM, E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag> wrote:
>   
>> This morning at a press conference, Cynthia McKinney (Green Party), Chuck
>> Baldwin (Constitution Party), and Ralph Nader (independent) released a
>> a statement that they agree with Congressman Ron Paul on 4 key points.
>>  Interestingly Bob (patriot act) Barr did not participate.
>>
>>
>> *
>>
>>
>> We Agree
>>
>> The Republican/Democrat duopoly has, for far too long, ignored the most
>> important issues facing our nation.  However, alternate candidates Chuck
>> Baldwin, Cynthia McKinney, and Ralph Nader agree with Ron Paul on four key
>> principles central to the health of our nation. These principles should be
>> key in the considerations of every voter this November and in every
>> election.
>>
>> We Agree
>>
>> Foreign Policy:
>> The Iraq War must end as quickly as possible with removal of all our
>> soldiers from the region. We must initiate the return of our soldiers from
>> around the world, including Korea, Japan, Europe and the entire Middle East.
>> We must cease the war propaganda, threats of a blockade and plans for
>> attacks on Iran, nor should we re-ignite the cold war with Russia over
>> Georgia. We must be willing to talk to all countries and offer friendship
>> and trade and travel to all who are willing. We must take off the table the
>> threat of a nuclear first strike against all nations.
>>
>> Privacy:
>> We must protect the privacy and civil liberties of all persons under US
>> jurisdiction. We must repeal or radically change the Patriot Act, the
>> Military Commissions Act, and the FISA legislation. We must reject the
>> notion and practice of torture, eliminations of habeas corpus, secret
>> tribunals, and secret prisons. We must deny immunity for corporations that
>> spy willingly on the people for the benefit of the government. We must
>> reject the unitary presidency, the illegal use of signing statements and
>> excessive use of executive orders.
>>
>> The National Debt:
>> We believe that there should be no increase in the national debt. The burden
>> of debt placed on the next generation is unjust and already threatening our
>> economy and the value of our dollar. We must pay our bills as we go along
>> and not unfairly place this burden on a future generation.
>>
>> The Federal Reserve:
>> We seek a thorough investigation, evaluation and audit of the Federal
>> Reserve System and its cozy relationships with the banking, corporate, and
>> other financial institutions. The arbitrary power to create money and credit
>> out of thin air behind closed doors for the benefit of commercial interests
>> must be ended. There should be no taxpayer bailouts of corporations and no
>> corporate subsidies. Corporations should be aggressively prosecuted for
>> their crimes and frauds.
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