[Peace-discuss] We agree with Ron Paul: McKinney, Baldwin, Nader

E. Wayne Johnson ewj at pigs.ag
Wed Sep 10 12:19:31 CDT 2008


here is youtube of Nader at the press conference. 

Maybe the best explanation is that this lowQ video
was done in a basement with Nader and McKinney look-alikes or by
a clever hacker with a video editor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t49qLcw2Kec


Robert Naiman wrote:
> *As far as I can tell, there was no such press conference and no such
> joint statement.*
>
> Somebody posted a statement on a Ron Paul website claiming that these
> were areas of agreement, not claiming that there was a joint statement
> of agreement.
>
> That Ralph Nader would have signed off on this statement is highly implausible.
>
> In particular, as far as I know, Ralph Nader does not advocate getting
> rid of the Federal Reserve function of regulating the money supply.
> Nor does he advocate "pay as you go" budget rules, which, in practice,
> are quite reactionary in their impact.
>
> This is the sentence that tipped me off:
>
> "The arbitrary power to create money and credit out of thin air behind
> closed doors for the benefit of commercial interests must be ended."
>
> That sentence was written by a Ron Paul supporter - someone who wants
> to abolish the Federal Reserve, the US central bank.  I will wager a
> thousand dollars against a dime that Ralph Nader never signed off on
> it.
>
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:41 AM, E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag> wrote:
>   
>> This morning at a press conference, Cynthia McKinney (Green Party), Chuck
>> Baldwin (Constitution Party), and Ralph Nader (independent) released a
>> a statement that they agree with Congressman Ron Paul on 4 key points.
>>  Interestingly Bob (patriot act) Barr did not participate.
>>
>>
>> *
>>
>>
>> We Agree
>>
>> The Republican/Democrat duopoly has, for far too long, ignored the most
>> important issues facing our nation.  However, alternate candidates Chuck
>> Baldwin, Cynthia McKinney, and Ralph Nader agree with Ron Paul on four key
>> principles central to the health of our nation. These principles should be
>> key in the considerations of every voter this November and in every
>> election.
>>
>> We Agree
>>
>> Foreign Policy:
>> The Iraq War must end as quickly as possible with removal of all our
>> soldiers from the region. We must initiate the return of our soldiers from
>> around the world, including Korea, Japan, Europe and the entire Middle East.
>> We must cease the war propaganda, threats of a blockade and plans for
>> attacks on Iran, nor should we re-ignite the cold war with Russia over
>> Georgia. We must be willing to talk to all countries and offer friendship
>> and trade and travel to all who are willing. We must take off the table the
>> threat of a nuclear first strike against all nations.
>>
>> Privacy:
>> We must protect the privacy and civil liberties of all persons under US
>> jurisdiction. We must repeal or radically change the Patriot Act, the
>> Military Commissions Act, and the FISA legislation. We must reject the
>> notion and practice of torture, eliminations of habeas corpus, secret
>> tribunals, and secret prisons. We must deny immunity for corporations that
>> spy willingly on the people for the benefit of the government. We must
>> reject the unitary presidency, the illegal use of signing statements and
>> excessive use of executive orders.
>>
>> The National Debt:
>> We believe that there should be no increase in the national debt. The burden
>> of debt placed on the next generation is unjust and already threatening our
>> economy and the value of our dollar. We must pay our bills as we go along
>> and not unfairly place this burden on a future generation.
>>
>> The Federal Reserve:
>> We seek a thorough investigation, evaluation and audit of the Federal
>> Reserve System and its cozy relationships with the banking, corporate, and
>> other financial institutions. The arbitrary power to create money and credit
>> out of thin air behind closed doors for the benefit of commercial interests
>> must be ended. There should be no taxpayer bailouts of corporations and no
>> corporate subsidies. Corporations should be aggressively prosecuted for
>> their crimes and frauds.
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