[Peace-discuss] We agree with Ron Paul: McKinney, Baldwin, Nader

[Robert Naiman]

Did Ralph Nader make the statement that you claimed that he made?

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 12:19 PM, E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag> wrote:
> here is youtube of Nader at the press conference.
>
> Maybe the best explanation is that this lowQ video
> was done in a basement with Nader and McKinney look-alikes or by
> a clever hacker with a video editor.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t49qLcw2Kec
>
>
> Robert Naiman wrote:
>
> As far as I can tell, there was no such press conference and no such
> joint statement.
>
> Somebody posted a statement on a Ron Paul website claiming that these
> were areas of agreement, not claiming that there was a joint statement
> of agreement.
>
> That Ralph Nader would have signed off on this statement is highly
> implausible.
>
> In particular, as far as I know, Ralph Nader does not advocate getting
> rid of the Federal Reserve function of regulating the money supply.
> Nor does he advocate "pay as you go" budget rules, which, in practice,
> are quite reactionary in their impact.
>
> This is the sentence that tipped me off:
>
> "The arbitrary power to create money and credit out of thin air behind
> closed doors for the benefit of commercial interests must be ended."
>
> That sentence was written by a Ron Paul supporter - someone who wants
> to abolish the Federal Reserve, the US central bank.  I will wager a
> thousand dollars against a dime that Ralph Nader never signed off on
> it.
>
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:41 AM, E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag> wrote:
>
>
> This morning at a press conference, Cynthia McKinney (Green Party), Chuck
> Baldwin (Constitution Party), and Ralph Nader (independent) released a
> a statement that they agree with Congressman Ron Paul on 4 key points.
>  Interestingly Bob (patriot act) Barr did not participate.
>
>
> *
>
>
> We Agree
>
> The Republican/Democrat duopoly has, for far too long, ignored the most
> important issues facing our nation.  However, alternate candidates Chuck
> Baldwin, Cynthia McKinney, and Ralph Nader agree with Ron Paul on four key
> principles central to the health of our nation. These principles should be
> key in the considerations of every voter this November and in every
> election.
>
> We Agree
>
> Foreign Policy:
> The Iraq War must end as quickly as possible with removal of all our
> soldiers from the region. We must initiate the return of our soldiers from
> around the world, including Korea, Japan, Europe and the entire Middle East.
> We must cease the war propaganda, threats of a blockade and plans for
> attacks on Iran, nor should we re-ignite the cold war with Russia over
> Georgia. We must be willing to talk to all countries and offer friendship
> and trade and travel to all who are willing. We must take off the table the
> threat of a nuclear first strike against all nations.
>
> Privacy:
> We must protect the privacy and civil liberties of all persons under US
> jurisdiction. We must repeal or radically change the Patriot Act, the
> Military Commissions Act, and the FISA legislation. We must reject the
> notion and practice of torture, eliminations of habeas corpus, secret
> tribunals, and secret prisons. We must deny immunity for corporations that
> spy willingly on the people for the benefit of the government. We must
> reject the unitary presidency, the illegal use of signing statements and
> excessive use of executive orders.
>
> The National Debt:
> We believe that there should be no increase in the national debt. The burden
> of debt placed on the next generation is unjust and already threatening our
> economy and the value of our dollar. We must pay our bills as we go along
> and not unfairly place this burden on a future generation.
>
> The Federal Reserve:
> We seek a thorough investigation, evaluation and audit of the Federal
> Reserve System and its cozy relationships with the banking, corporate, and
> other financial institutions. The arbitrary power to create money and credit
> out of thin air behind closed doors for the benefit of commercial interests
> must be ended. There should be no taxpayer bailouts of corporations and no
> corporate subsidies. Corporations should be aggressively prosecuted for
> their crimes and frauds.
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