[Peace-discuss] Re: Suggested text for Main Event flyer

C. G. Estabrook galliher at uiuc.edu
Tue Sep 30 21:07:21 CDT 2008


The colors are just bold and underlinings in the original.  I wasn't suggesting 
the hand-out be anything but black and white.

We could cut the sentence Barbara questions (it's complicated...) and then be 
sure that it would fit one page.  Win-win, so to speak.  --CGE


Barbara kessel wrote:
> What are we to make of the black text and the magenta text? Do you think 
> you can get the entire text on one page?  I like Chalmers Johnson and 
> find the pentagon budget figure quite a stunner. However, I do not like 
> the following sentence,
> "He seems to be unaware that these troops are actually volunteers, not 
> draftees, and that they joined the armed forces as a matter of career 
> choice, rather than because the nation demanded such a sacrifice from 
> them." The words, "career choices" makes it sound like they had a lot of 
> choices, which is not true for the low income people, particularly those 
> from the rust-belt. It also ignores that those in the National Guard did 
> not sign up for fighting foreign wars at all; never before have we 
> fought foreign wars with the national guard.  
> 
> ....just one opinion.  Barbara
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 5:25 PM, C. G. Estabrook <galliher at uiuc.edu 
> <mailto:galliher at uiuc.edu>> wrote:
> 
>      WE HAVE THE MONEY - IF ONLY WE DIDN'T WASTE IT ON THE DEFENSE BUDGET
>      by Chalmers Johnson, author of Blowback (2000), The Sorrows of Empire
>      (2004), and Nemesis: The Last Days of the American Republic (2006) --
>      all on US militarism and imperialism
> 
> 
>     There has been much moaning, air-sucking, and outrage about the $700
>     billion that the U.S. government is thinking of throwing away on
>     rich New York bankers who have been ripping us off for the past few
>     years and then letting greed drive their businesses into a variety
>     of ditches. In fact, we dole out similar amounts of money every year
>     in the form of payoffs to the armed services, the
>     military-industrial complex, and powerful senators and
>     representatives allied with the Pentagon.
> 
>     On Wednesday, September 24th, right in the middle of the fight over
>     billions of taxpayer dollars slated to bail out Wall Street, the
>     House of Representatives passed a $612 billion defense authorization
>     bill for 2009 without a murmur of public protest or any meaningful
>     press comment at all. (The New York Times gave the matter only three
>     short paragraphs buried in a story about another appropriations
>     measure.)
> 
>     The defense bill includes $68.6 billion to pursue the wars in Iraq
>     and Afghanistan, which is only a down-payment on the full yearly
>     cost of these wars. (The rest will be raised through future
>     supplementary bills.) It also included a 3.9% pay raise for military
>     personnel, and $5 billion in pork-barrel projects not even requested
>     by the administration or the secretary of defense. It also fully
>     funds the Pentagon's request for a radar site in the Czech Republic,
>     a hare-brained scheme sure to infuriate the Russians just as much as
>     a Russian missile base in Cuba once infuriated us. The whole bill
>     passed by a vote of 392-39 and will fly through the Senate, where a
>     similar bill has already been approved. And no one will even think
>     to mention it in the same breath with the discussion of bailout
>     funds for dying investment banks and the like.
> 
> 
>     This is pure waste. Our annual spending on "national security" --
>     meaning the defense budget plus all military expenditures hidden in
>     the budgets for the departments of Energy, State, Treasury, Veterans
>     Affairs, the CIA, and numerous other places in the executive branch
>     -- already exceeds a trillion dollars, an amount larger than that of
>     all other national defense budgets combined. Not only was there no
>     significant media coverage of this latest appropriation, there have
>     been no signs of even the slightest urge to inquire into the
>     relationship between our bloated military, our staggering weapons
>     expenditures, our extravagantly expensive failed wars abroad, and
>     the financial catastrophe on Wall Street.
> 
>     The only Congressional "commentary" on the size of our military
>     outlay was the usual pompous drivel about how a failure to vote for
>     the defense authorization bill would betray our troops. The aged
>     Senator John Warner (R-Va), former chairman of the Senate Armed
>     Services Committee, implored his Republican colleagues to vote for
>     the bill "out of respect for military personnel." He seems to be
>     unaware that these troops are actually volunteers, not draftees, and
>     that they joined the armed forces as a matter of career choice,
>     rather than because the nation demanded such a sacrifice from them.
> 
> 
>     We would better respect our armed forces by bringing the futile and
>     misbegotten wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to an end. A relative
>     degree of peace and order has returned to Iraq not because of
>     President Bush's belated reinforcement of our expeditionary army
>     there (the so-called surge), but thanks to shifting internal
>     dynamics within Iraq and in the Middle East region generally. Such
>     shifts include a growing awareness among Iraq's Sunni population of
>     the need to restore law and order, a growing confidence among Iraqi
>     Shi'ites of their nearly unassailable position of political
>     influence in the country, and a growing awareness among Sunni
>     nations that the ill-informed war of aggression the Bush
>     administration waged against Iraq has vastly increased the influence
>     of Shi'ism and Iran in the region.
> 
>     In the past year, perhaps most disastrously, we have carried our
>     Afghan war into Pakistan, a relatively wealthy and sophisticated
>     nuclear power that has long cooperated with us militarily. Our
>     recent bungling brutality along the Afghan-Pakistan border threatens
>     to radicalize the Pashtuns in both countries and advance the
>     interests of radical Islam throughout the region. The United States
>     is now identified in each country mainly with Hellfire missiles,
>     unmanned drones, special operations raids, and repeated incidents of
>     the killing of innocent bystanders.
> 
>            ###
> 
> 
>     Randall Cotton wrote:
> 
>         This goes right along with one of the suggestions made at the
>         meeting
>         (something on the economy), is also strongly anti-war and seems
>         to me to
>         be an excellent idea. Barbara is supplying electronic content
>         for the
>         Kenney events to Durl, who has volunteered to run off the
>         copies, so it
>         should be just a matter of posting the edited text to
>         peace-discuss and
>         Durl could take it from there. Someone pipe up if I'm wrong on
>         any of this
>         8-)
> 
>         Thanks
>         R
> 
>         ----- Original Message ----- From: "C. G. Estabrook"
>         <galliher at uiuc.edu <mailto:galliher at uiuc.edu>>
>         To: "Randall Cotton" <recotton at earthlink.net
>         <mailto:recotton at earthlink.net>>
>         Cc: <Peace at lists.chambana.net <mailto:Peace at lists.chambana.net>>
>         Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 11:37 AM
>         Subject: Suggested text for Main Event flyer
> 
> 
>         : Randall Cotton wrote:
>         : >
>         : > Someone is needed to create content for AWARE's "Main Event"
>         flyer.
>         : > One side of the flyer will contain publicity for AWARE's
>         upcoming Dan
>         : > Kenney events, but though there were suggestions for content
>         for the
>         : > flipside (see below in the minutes, under "Main Event"), no
>         one has
>         come
>         : > forward yet to put this together.
>         : > Contact: Randall Cotton, recotton at earthlink.net
>         <mailto:recotton at earthlink.net>, 351-8644/722-8470
>         :
>         : > ...
>         : > Flyer page 1 will be advertisement for Dan Kenney events
>         : > Suggestions for the other side of the flyer:
>         : > Something on the economy
>         : > Something on local armed forces leaving this week to go to
>         Afghanistan
>         : > Something including the statistics that we disseminate via the
>         anti-war
>         : > electronic billboard
>         : >
>         : > Volunteer needed to assemble a second side for the flyer
>         :
>         : [Page 2 of the flyer should complement Kenney's topic by
>         connecting the
>         war and
>         : the bailout (which is not dead). I'm willing to edit (and
>         format) a
>         selection
>         : from the following piece by Chalmers Johnson (which is too
>         long to fit
>         on one
>         : page).  Johnson is the author of three linked books on the
>         crises of
>         American
>         : imperialism and militarism. They are Blowback (2000), The
>         Sorrows of
>         Empire
>         : (2004), and Nemesis: The Last Days of the American Republic
>         (2006). --CGE]
>         :
>         : We Have the Money.
>         : If only we didn't waste it on the defense budget
>         : Chalmers Johnson
>         :
>         : There has been much moaning, air-sucking, and outrage about
>         the $700
>         billion
>         : that the U.S. government is thinking of throwing away on rich
>         New York
>         bankers
>         : who have been ripping us off for the past few years and then
>         letting
>         greed drive
>         : their businesses into a variety of ditches. In fact, we dole
>         out similar
>         amounts
>         : of money every year in the form of payoffs to the armed
>         services, the
>         : military-industrial complex, and powerful senators and
>         representatives
>         allied
>         : with the Pentagon.
>         :
>         : On Wednesday, Sept. 24, right in the middle of the fight over
>         billions
>         of
>         : taxpayer dollars slated to bail out Wall Street, the House of
>         Representatives
>         : passed a $612 billion defense authorization bill for 2009
>         without a
>         murmur of
>         : public protest or any meaningful press comment at all. (The
>         New York
>         Times gave
>         : the matter only three short paragraphs buried in a story about
>         another
>         : appropriations measure.)
>         :
>         : The defense bill includes $68.6 billion to pursue the wars in
>         Iraq and
>         : Afghanistan, which is only a down-payment on the full yearly
>         cost of
>         these wars.
>         : (The rest will be raised through future supplementary bills.)
>         It also
>         included a
>         : 3.9 percent pay raise for military personnel and $5 billion in
>         pork-barrel
>         : projects not even requested by the administration or the
>         secretary of
>         defense.
>         : It also fully funds the Pentagon's request for a radar site in
>         the Czech
>         : Republic, a hare-brained scheme sure to infuriate the Russians
>         just as
>         much as a
>         : Russian missile base in Cuba once infuriated us. The whole
>         bill passed
>         by a vote
>         : of 392-39 and will fly through the Senate, where a similar
>         bill has
>         already been
>         : approved. And no one will even think to mention it in the same
>         breath
>         with the
>         : discussion of bailout funds for dying investment banks and the
>         like.
>         :
>         : This is pure waste. Our annual spending on "national security"
>         – meaning
>         the
>         : defense budget plus all military expenditures hidden in the
>         budgets for
>         the
>         : departments of Energy, State, Treasury, Veterans Affairs, the
>         CIA, and
>         numerous
>         : other places in the executive branch – already exceeds a trillion
>         dollars, an
>         : amount larger than that of all other national defense budgets
>         combined.
>         Not only
>         : was there no significant media coverage of this latest
>         appropriation,
>         there have
>         : been no signs of even the slightest urge to inquire into the
>         relationship
>         : between our bloated military, our staggering weapons
>         expenditures, our
>         : extravagantly expensive failed wars abroad, and the financial
>         catastrophe on
>         : Wall Street.
>         :
>         : The only congressional "commentary" on the size of our
>         military outlay
>         was the
>         : usual pompous drivel about how a failure to vote for the defense
>         authorization
>         : bill would betray our troops. The aged Sen. John Warner
>         (R-Va.), former
>         chairman
>         : of the Senate Armed Services Committee, implored his Republican
>         colleagues to
>         : vote for the bill "out of respect for military personnel." He
>         seems to
>         be
>         : unaware that these troops are actually volunteers, not
>         draftees, and
>         that they
>         : joined the armed forces as a matter of career choice, rather than
>         because the
>         : nation demanded such a sacrifice from them.
>         :
>         : We would better respect our armed forces by bringing the
>         futile and
>         misbegotten
>         : wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to an end. A relative degree of
>         peace and
>         order has
>         : returned to Iraq not because of President Bush's belated
>         reinforcement
>         of our
>         : expeditionary army there (the so-called surge), but thanks to
>         shifting
>         internal
>         : dynamics within Iraq and in the Middle East region generally. Such
>         shifts
>         : include a growing awareness among Iraq's Sunni population of
>         the need to
>         restore
>         : law and order, a growing confidence among Iraqi Shi'ites of
>         their nearly
>         : unassailable position of political influence in the country, and a
>         growing
>         : awareness among Sunni nations that the ill-informed war of
>         aggression
>         the Bush
>         : administration waged against Iraq has vastly increased the
>         influence of
>         Shi'ism
>         : and Iran in the region.
>         :
>         : The continued presence of American troops and their heavily
>         reinforced
>         bases in
>         : Iraq threatens this return to relative stability. The refusal
>         of the
>         Shia
>         : government of Iraq to agree to an American Status of Forces
>         Agreement –
>         much
>         : desired by the Bush administration – that would exempt
>         off-duty American
>         troops
>         : from Iraqi law is actually a good sign for the future of Iraq.
>         :
>         : In Afghanistan, our historically deaf generals and civilian
>         strategists
>         do not
>         : seem to understand that our defeat by the Afghan insurgents is
>         inevitable. Since
>         : the time of Alexander the Great, no foreign intruder has ever
>         prevailed
>         over
>         : Afghan guerrillas defending their home turf. The first
>         Anglo-Afghan War
>         : (1838-1842) marked a particularly humiliating defeat of British
>         imperialism at
>         : the very height of English military power in the Victorian
>         era. The
>         : Soviet-Afghan War (1978-1989) resulted in a Russian defeat so
>         demoralizing that
>         : it contributed significantly to the disintegration of the
>         former Soviet
>         Union in
>         : 1991. We are now on track to repeat virtually all the errors
>         committed
>         by
>         : previous invaders of Afghanistan over the centuries.
>         :
>         : In the past year, perhaps most disastrously, we have carried
>         our Afghan
>         war into
>         : Pakistan, a relatively wealthy and sophisticated nuclear power
>         that has
>         long
>         : cooperated with us militarily. Our recent bungling brutality
>         along the
>         : Afghan-Pakistan border threatens to radicalize the Pashtuns in
>         both
>         countries
>         : and advance the interests of radical Islam throughout the
>         region. The
>         United
>         : States is now identified in each country mainly with Hellfire
>         missiles,
>         unmanned
>         : drones, special operations raids, and repeated incidents of
>         the killing
>         of
>         : innocent bystanders.
>         :
>         : The brutal bombing of the Marriott Hotel in Pakistan's capital,
>         Islamabad, on
>         : Sept. 20, 2008, was a powerful indicator of the spreading
>         strength of
>         virulent
>         : anti-American sentiment in the area. The hotel was a
>         well-known watering
>         hole
>         : for American Marines, Special Forces troops, and CIA agents. Our
>         military
>         : activities in Pakistan have been as misguided as the
>         Nixon-Kissinger
>         invasion of
>         : Cambodia in 1970. The end result will almost surely be the same.
>         :
>         : We should begin our disengagement from Afghanistan at once. We
>         dislike
>         the
>         : Taliban's fundamentalist religious values, but the Afghan
>         public, with
>         its
>         : desperate desire for a return of law and order and the curbing of
>         corruption,
>         : knows that the Taliban is the only political force in the
>         country that
>         has ever
>         : brought the opium trade under control. The Pakistanis and their
>         effective army
>         : can defend their country from Taliban domination so long as we
>         abandon
>         the
>         : activities that are causing both Afghans and Pakistanis to see the
>         Taliban as a
>         : lesser evil.
>         :
>         : One of America's greatest authorities on the defense budget,
>         Winslow
>         Wheeler,
>         : worked for 31 years for Republican members of the Senate and
>         for the
>         General
>         : Accounting Office on military expenditures. His conclusion,
>         when it
>         comes to the
>         : fiscal sanity of our military spending, is devastating:
>         :
>         : "America's defense budget is now larger in inflation-adjusted
>         dollars
>         than at
>         : any point since the end of World War II, and yet our Army has
>         fewer
>         combat
>         : brigades than at any point in that period; our Navy has fewer
>         combat
>         ships; and
>         : the Air Force has fewer combat aircraft. Our major equipment
>         inventories
>         for
>         : these major forces are older on average than any point since
>         1946 – or
>         in some
>         : cases, in our entire history."
>         :
>         : This in itself is a national disgrace. Spending hundreds of
>         billions of
>         dollars
>         : on present and future wars that have nothing to do with our
>         national
>         security is
>         : simply obscene. And yet Congress has been corrupted by the
>         military-industrial
>         : complex into believing that, by voting for more defense
>         spending, they
>         are
>         : supplying "jobs" for the economy. In fact, they are only diverting
>         scarce
>         : resources from the desperately needed rebuilding of the American
>         infrastructure
>         : and other crucial spending necessities into utterly wasteful
>         munitions.
>         If we
>         : cannot cut back our long-standing, ever increasing military
>         spending in
>         a major
>         : way, then the bankruptcy of the United States is inevitable.
>         As the
>         current Wall
>         : Street meltdown has demonstrated, that is no longer an abstract
>         possibility but
>         : a growing likelihood. We do not have much time left.
>         :
>         : ###
>         :
>         :
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