[Peace-discuss] Wayne calls out Krugman

[E. Wayne Johnson]

Bob,

I didn't mean it as an insult at all. 

Nor was I really wanting to make a case against him /per se/ but ask as 
a serious non-rhetorical question how he got to where he is now... 

I will agree that perhaps it would behoove me to be a bit more careful.  
Qiao tells me that frequently.

But this Krugman business does look like a set up to me, that this guy 
gets a Nobel Prize and instantly is propelled into a Rush Limbaugh-like 
position as a media pundit and hit man for the Obama Administration.  I 
read something by Krugman or see him on video about once or twice a week 
and I never noticed much his title.  "Liberal" is not a key word for 
me.  Lots of Libertarian leaning people call themselves "classical 
liberal".  Aimee Allen says she is a left-leaning paleolibertarian.  
What do these titles mean?

Krugman is way too often using the argument by generalizations line "all 
economists agree", "economists agree", "as everyone agrees"... I do see 
him as a media guy like Hannity, Limbaugh, Medved not as a scholar like 
Hayek, von Mises, Woods, ...  I do find it fishy that this guy Krugman 
gets a Nobel Prize.   F.A.Hayek got a Nobel prize for ideas that are 
diametrically opposed to Krugman's.

Of course, the folks that I follow of the Austrian School (not the 
Chicago school), and most of the people in the "Movement" do most 
strongly disagree with Paul Krugman, so I really do dislike his 
"Argument by Generalization".   Krugman was on cspan several weeks ago 
and Bob Schlereth called in from Urbana (his mother lives here) and 
asked Krugman about how Austrian Economics predicted the Economic 
collapse.  Krugman said that the Austrian school was small and obscure 
and then he actually tried to respond that he had seen the bust coming 
too, and a few days later he was saying that no one could have seen it 
coming.  What?

Krugman was also calling the Tea Parties "Astroturf", meaning that it 
was not a real grassroots effort, but rather a "contrived effort made to 
look real", like the home-made McCain and Palin signs that appeared 
"spontaneously" on the floor of the Republican National Convention.  I 
am at times about half ready to believe that the american people really 
are a stupid as they say that they are.  Those of us out here organizing 
through facebook and meetup.com and email and blogs do perceive the 
world as much different from the way that Krugman is telling it.  And 
Max Keiser, who lives in Paris and writes for Huffington Post (someone 
else can classify Max), has been calling for the trial and summary 
execution on the yardarm or guillotine of Paulson, Geithner, Bernanke, 
and bubbleblowing Greenspan, for racketeering, treason, and high crimes 
against the people.  Max's show on BBCWorld has been cancelled but he 
will be starting a new show "On the Edge with Max Keiser" sometime next 
week.


Bob Illyes wrote:
> Wayne writes "One might wonder how much Krugman's Nobel Prize cost and 
> where the money to buy it came from...Paul Krugman is certainly an 
> easy guy to dislike, as everyone agrees."
>
> It is not necessary to insult someone to refute them, Wayne. Quite the 
> contrary. Insults suggest that you don't have a case against Krugman. 
> I trust you were able to get past his title "The Conscience of a 
> Liberal" and actually read what he had to say.
>
> Bob
>
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