[Peace-discuss] Fw: Lou Dobbs is dangerous

Wed Aug 12 19:36:56 CDT 2009

And you'll be absolutely astonished to learn that the outfit is a Democratic 
party front group...

E. Wayne Johnson wrote:
> I find it an ironic hoot that some outfit that dares call itself
> "Democracy for America" is calling for the squelching of dissent...
> 
> FWIW, I don't generally watch CNN or Lou Dobbs,
> neither have I seen J.R. "Bob" Dobbs on TV...
> 
> *
> You'll PAY to know what you really think.
> *JR ‘Bob’ Dobbs*
> 
> You know how dumb the average guy is, right? Well, mathematically, by 
> definition, half of them are even dumber than that.
> *JR ‘Bob’ Dobbs*
> 
> [His "Bob-ness" is not exactly right here, since his definition refers 
> to the median,
> while "average" is usually considered to be the "mean", and "dumbness"
> is a skew distribution.]
> 
> 
> On 8/12/2009 6:03 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
>> I don't see much similarity between what Dobbs and Goodman are saying.
>>
>> But I'm against any assertion of the form, "X should be taken off the 
>> air because of what X is saying!"
>>
>> Obviously, that doesn't commit me to support the substance of "what X 
>> is saying"
>> for any X.
>>
>> I think Chomsky is right when he says, "If we don't believe in freedom of
>> expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all."
>>
>> And I despise a lot of people. --CGE
>>
>>
>> unionyes wrote:
>>> Carl,
>>>
>>> I usually agree with most of your points and analysis, but how you 
>>> can claim
>>> ANY similarities between Lou Dobbs ( and his promotion of racism against
>>> Mexicans and now inciting violence against those who want a watered down
>>> public healthcare option ) and Amy Goodman is beyond me !
>>>
>>> David Johnson
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "C. G. Estabrook" 
>>> <galliher at illinois.edu> To: "Jenifer Cartwright" 
>>> <jencart13 at yahoo.com> Cc: "Peace-discuss"
>>> <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 
>>> 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Fw: Lou Dobbs is dangerous
>>>
>>>
>>>> If this were about Amy Goodman, we'd regard it as an attempt at 
>>>> censorship.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --- On *Tue, 8/11/09, Jim Dean, Democracy for America 
>>>>> /<info at democracyforamerica.com>/* wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Jim Dean, Democracy for America 
>>>>> <info at democracyforamerica.com> Subject: Lou Dobbs is dangerous To: 
>>>>> jencart13 at yahoo.com Date: Tuesday,
>>>>> August 11, 2009, 2:21 PM
>>>>>
>>>>> Jenifer -
>>>>>
>>>>> It's time to get Lou Dobbs and his hate speech off the air.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yesterday, our friends at /Media Matters for America/, who are 
>>>>> dedicated
>>>>> to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting 
>>>>> conservative misinformation in the U.S. media, caught Lou Dobbs 
>>>>> promoting hate and inciting violence towards Governor Howard Dean.
>>>>>
>>>>> With violence from right-wing extremist groups on the rise and 
>>>>> Republican
>>>>>  backed mobs hanging cardboard versions of members of congress in 
>>>>> effigy,
>>>>> Lou Dobbs' statement is dangerous. Enough is enough.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's time for CNN and the United Stations Radio Network to fire Lou 
>>>>> Dobbs. Call Now and demand Lou Dobbs be taken off the air 
>>>>> <http://dfa2.convio.net/site/R?i=R0TlwMzgXX7kD7BRD8xOtA...> *WATCH THE
>>>>> CLIP AND GET THE NUMBERS TO CALL NOW 
>>>>> <http://dfa2.convio.net/site/R?i=jHAUT1gq_X1Hc10eJFtoBQ..> *
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This isn't the first time Lou Dobbs has used the air waves to 
>>>>> promote hate and embarrass CNN.
>>>>>
>>>>> His relentless promotion of debunked, racially charged conspiracy 
>>>>> theories about President Obama's birth certificate have already 
>>>>> seriously
>>>>> damaged CNN's credibility. Yet, Lou Dobbs remains on the air.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now, he's gone too far. He's not just making CNN look bad, he's 
>>>>> inciting violence to stop Governor Dean from fighting for President 
>>>>> Obama's health
>>>>>  insurance option. That's not just un-American, it's irresponsible 
>>>>> and dangerous.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's up to us to make sure CNN and the United Stations Radio 
>>>>> Network know
>>>>>  we've had enough.
>>>>>
>>>>> *CALL NOW AND DEMAND LOU DOBBS BE TAKEN OFF THE AIR 
>>>>> <http://dfa2.convio.net/site/R?i=R0inr8Lzz5A9YYfePW7zcQ..>*
>>>>>
>>>>> This isn't just about my brother Howard; this is about the America 
>>>>> we all
>>>>>  want to live in.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for everything you do,
>>>>>
>>>>> -Jim
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim Dean, Chair Democracy for America
>>>>>
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