[Peace-discuss] Fw: Lou Dobbs is dangerous

E. Wayne Johnson ewj at pigs.ag
Thu Aug 13 09:31:30 CDT 2009


"Hate speech" is in the ear of the beholder.

If I didn't believe so strongly in free speech, I might be tempted to 
censor strident calls for censorship.
I perceive partisan strife not righteous indignation in this call for 
censorship.

We can't go about censoring error.  We should rather should be focusing 
on proclaiming truth
and in weeding out error  in our own gardens.




On 8/13/2009 9:09 AM, Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
> Pretty obvious that those listening to hate speech (including those on 
> this list) lose their ability to differentiate betw dissent and 
> hate/hateful speech. The Amy Goodman-Lou Dobbs analogy is a good 
> example of how that can happen.
>  --Jenifer
>
> --- On *Wed, 8/12/09, unionyes /<unionyes at ameritech.net>/* wrote:
>
>
>     From: unionyes <unionyes at ameritech.net>
>     Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Fw: Lou Dobbs is dangerous
>     To: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at illinois.edu>
>     Cc: "Peace-discuss List" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
>     Date: Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 4:58 PM
>
>     Carl,
>
>     I usually agree with most of your points and analysis, but how you
>     can claim ANY similarities between Lou Dobbs ( and his promotion
>     of racism against Mexicans and now inciting violence against those
>     who want a watered down public healthcare option ) and Amy Goodman
>     is beyond me !
>
>     David Johnson
>
>     ----- Original Message ----- From: "C. G. Estabrook"
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>     To: "Jenifer Cartwright" <jencart13 at yahoo.com
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>
>
>     > If this were about Amy Goodman, we'd regard it as an attempt at
>     censorship.
>     >
>     >
>     > Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> --- On *Tue, 8/11/09, Jim Dean, Democracy for America
>     /<info at democracyforamerica.com
>     <http://us.mc449.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=info@democracyforamerica.com>>/*
>     wrote:
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> From: Jim Dean, Democracy for America
>     <info at democracyforamerica.com
>     <http://us.mc449.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=info@democracyforamerica.com>>
>     Subject:
>     >> Lou Dobbs is dangerous To: jencart13 at yahoo.com
>     <http://us.mc449.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jencart13@yahoo.com>
>     Date: Tuesday, August 11,
>     >> 2009, 2:21 PM
>     >>
>     >> Jenifer -
>     >>
>     >> It's time to get Lou Dobbs and his hate speech off the air.
>     >>
>     >> Yesterday, our friends at /Media Matters for America/, who are
>     dedicated to
>     >> comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative
>     >> misinformation in the U.S. media, caught Lou Dobbs promoting
>     hate and
>     >> inciting violence towards Governor Howard Dean.
>     >>
>     >> With violence from right-wing extremist groups on the rise and
>     Republican
>     >> backed mobs hanging cardboard versions of members of congress
>     in effigy, Lou
>     >> Dobbs' statement is dangerous.. Enough is enough.
>     >>
>     >> It's time for CNN and the United Stations Radio Network to fire
>     Lou Dobbs. Call Now and demand Lou Dobbs be taken off the air
>     <http://dfa2.convio.net/site/R?i=R0TlwMzgXX7kD7BRD8xOtA...> *WATCH
>     THE CLIP
>     >> AND GET THE NUMBERS TO CALL NOW
>     <http://dfa2.convio.net/site/R?i=jHAUT1gq_X1Hc10eJFtoBQ..> *
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> This isn't the first time Lou Dobbs has used the air waves to
>     promote hate
>     >> and embarrass CNN.
>     >>
>     >> His relentless promotion of debunked, racially charged
>     conspiracy theories
>     >> about President Obama's birth certificate have already
>     seriously damaged
>     >> CNN's credibility. Yet, Lou Dobbs remains on the air.
>     >>
>     >> Now, he's gone too far. He's not just making CNN look bad, he's
>     inciting
>     >> violence to stop Governor Dean from fighting for President
>     Obama's health
>     >> insurance option. That's not just un-American, it's
>     irresponsible and
>     >> dangerous.
>     >>
>     >> It's up to us to make sure CNN and the United Stations Radio
>     Network know
>     >> we've had enough.
>     >>
>     >> *CALL NOW AND DEMAND LOU DOBBS BE TAKEN OFF THE AIR
>     <http://dfa2.convio.net/site/R?i=R0inr8Lzz5A9YYfePW7zcQ..>*
>     >>
>     >> This isn't just about my brother Howard; this is about the
>     America we all
>     >> want to live in.
>     >>
>     >> Thank you for everything you do,
>     >>
>     >> -Jim
>     >>
>     >> Jim Dean, Chair Democracy for America
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