[Peace-discuss] in case you haven't seen Barney Frank's finest hour

[John W.]

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:20 PM, C. G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu>wrote:

Wouldn't it have been better if he'd found out why the woman made the
> comparison she did and what the source of her information was, and refuted
> it, if he could?
>
> This bit of low theater just keeps the argument going -- which may after
> all be the point.  --CGE


You apparently haven't spent much time with people who think differently
than you do, Carl.  Or else your own critical thinking skills are
deteriorating.

As Barney Frank said, there' s no point in even trying to engage such people
in dialogue, because they truly do come from a different planet.  The
discussion/argument can go on for days and days without any rapprochement
whatsoever, because the parties start out with diametrically opposed
assumptions, definitions, first principles.  There's no ONE source of their
information, but rather a lifetime of disinformation.  The propaganda you're
always insisting is so effective in the United States, Carl.

Look at the lengthy discussion we recently had on this very list - over 60
posts, if memory serves - about whether or not pressuring CNN to get rid of
Lou Dobbs would constitute the "banning" of his freedom of speech.  We on
this list are people who basically AGREE on first principles, yet we
couldn't even arrive at a consensus on that.  Talking past each other, we
were.  Imagine, now, trying to discuss political issues with a person who
says such things as "Keep the government out of my Medicare!"

As I've said before, you need to get out more, man.

John Wason



> Ricky Baldwin wrote:


>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYlZiWK2Iy8
>>
>> Ricky Baldwin
>>
>> "Speak your mind even if your voice shakes." - Maggie Kuhn
>>
>
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