[Peace-discuss] Tim Johnson congratulated us on being consistent
E. Wayne Johnson
ewj at pigs.ag
Thu Dec 10 13:22:50 CST 2009
Dr. Gill,
We understand your attitude toward your opponent.
Would you mind sharing your view on the the War?
On 12/10/2009 12:04 PM, David Gill wrote:
> Hi Steve,
> I share your concerns regarding Mr. Johnson. We are suddenly to
> believe "pledges" made by Mr. Johnson, the man who signed a pledge to
> vacate Washington, D.C. by 2006 (a "pledge" which permitted him to win
> a narrow victory in a hotly-contested Republican primary in 2000)?
> Actions like voting to invade Iraq (an action I publicly
> opposed) speak much louder than words, especially actions that cost
> the blood of millions, and the lost opportunities that a trillion
> dollars would have brought to the American people and the world. And
> has Mr. Johnson even actually made such a "pledge" publicly? If so,
> can Mr. Estabrook actually reference it for us? I read Mr. Johnson's
> press releases very closely, and while he calls for "responsible"
> withdrawal from Afghanistan, I can't find the call for "immediate"
> withdrawal which Mr. Estabrook ascribes to Mr. Johnson.
> Finally, to set the record straight: I am not the "putative"
> Democratic candidate for Illinois' 15th district seat in the U.S.
> House of Representatives in the 2010 election, as described by Mr.
> Estabrook. I am the true and actual candidate, as evidenced by a
> quick look at the web site of the Illinois State Board of Elections.
> Thanks,
> David Gill, M.D.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Steve Cox <coxsg at sbcglobal.net>
> *To:* Peace-discuss List <Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>; Karen
> Medina <kmedina67 at gmail.com>; tif-cu at googlegroups.com
> *Cc:* Quakers <ucfriendsmeeting at gmail.com>; tif-cu at googlegroups.com;
> David Gill <docgill37 at yahoo.com>
> *Sent:* Wed, December 9, 2009 5:46:35 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Peace-discuss] Tim Johnson congratulated us on being
> consistent
>
> Ladies and gentlemen, I find it very hard to consider Representative
> Johnson's current conclusions as anything other than political
> posturing. With President Obama, a Democrat, holding the
> responsibilities for our Executive Branch of government, it is very
> convenient for Mr. Johnson to take a studied perspective of our
> military involvement in Iraq and Afganistan. The real time for Mr.
> Johnson to have made indications or even statements of his differing
> conclusions was when President Bush was in office. That was the time
> that he needed to make a devout expression of concern and conscience
> in opposition to the war and torture. That is when he should have
> stood up for truth, justice and human dignity. The truth is he did
> not. He failed to serve the 15th Congressional District with the
> complete devotion that his office called upon him to present.
>
> I believe a person stands for what is right no matter what the
> personal cost when they see something wrong being done or is projected
> to be done. The truth is what matters. The United States of America
> should never have attacked and invaded the country of Iraq. Once that
> was factually known, our nation should have confessed that error and
> done everything possible to make appropriate restitution. Our
> complicity is due to the fact that we, the people of this nation, did
> not make our leaders in Congress and the Executive Branch pronounce
> that open and clear statement to the world.
>
> Please do not misunderstand. I favor Mr. Johnson's new position. I
> encourage your solicitation of him to sponsor measures for peace and
> against torture. But I find it hard to believe that his change of
> mind or repackaging of his old positions is anything other than
> political gamesmanship.
>
> Thank you for the work you individually and collectively have
> performed to help us move to a better time and better world for all.
> Please never feel that your efforts are not enough, not important or
> have little results. The fact that you care for another human being
> is the greatest gift you can give to our world.
>
> Forgiveness and love are appropriate for Mr. Johnson, too. But wisdom
> cautions us to know and understand who he is and what he has done or
> not done.
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Steve Cox
>
> --- On *Sun, 12/6/09, Barbara kessel /<barkes at gmail.com>/* wrote:
>
>
> From: Barbara kessel <barkes at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Tim Johnson congratulated us on being
> consistent
> To: "Peace-discuss List" <Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>,
> "Karen Medina" <kmedina67 at gmail.com>
> Cc: "Quakers" <ucfriendsmeeting at gmail.com>, tif-cu at googlegroups.com
> Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 10:54 PM
>
> Thanks, Karen for passing this on. i agree with others: Let's give
> Tim Johnson a hand officially. He didn't just change his mind; he
> acknowledged that AWARE has been consistent.
>
> *T**here is a related issue that REP. TIM JOHNSON has been
> relatively good about: TORTURE*. The National Religious Coalition
> Against Torture will be meeting with him (probably in Washington
> D.C.) this Wednesday to ask him to be a co-sponsor of a bill to
> establish a select committee to review our past interrogation
> practices and recommend future restrictions.
> NRCAT asks us who are in his district to start calling his office
> to urge him to be a co-sponsor. Same time we can thank him for
> coming to the right conclusion on the wars. Two reasons to call!
> *Please give Tim Johnson a call this week sometime.* Washington
> D.C. (202) -225-2371 or 2004 Fox Drive, (217) 403-4690.
>
> Barbara Kessel
>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On *Sat, 12/5/09, Karen Medina
>> /<kmedina67 at gmail.com
>> <http://mc/compose?to=kmedina67@gmail.com>>/* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Karen Medina <kmedina67 at gmail.com
>> <http://mc/compose?to=kmedina67@gmail.com>>
>> Subject: [Peace-discuss] Tim Johnson
>> congratulated us on being consistent
>> To: "Peace-discuss List"
>> <Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
>> <http://mc/compose?to=Peace-discuss@lists.chambana.net>>
>> Date: Saturday, December 5, 2009, 6:10 PM
>>
>>
>> Peace-discuss,
>>
>> Representative Tim Johnson approached the AWARE
>> table at the Holiday
>> Market while it was personed by Dave Harley and
>> Stuart Levy. Tim
>> congratulated us on being consistent from the
>> beginning, Tim now
>> believes that he was wrong twice and regrets his
>> mistakes.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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