[Peace-discuss] "Waltz with Bashir" at the Art Feb 27.

C. G. Estabrook galliher at uiuc.edu
Sun Feb 22 11:32:24 CST 2009


Maybe it would be worthwhile for AWARE to sponsor a public forum critically 
discussing it (and not as a foreign artifact but as a question of US foreign 
policy).  Recording it for UPTV means we could take advantage of their upcoming 
web distribution. --CGE


David Green wrote:
> Well Bob, there's no way to evaluate a movie that claims to be based on
> historical events without understanding as much as is possible the contextual
> truth about those events. I'd be very surprised if the movie does that,
> concentric circles aside. Israeli "anguish" in no way implies honest
> self-criticism, in fact it implies the opposite--the sentimentalization of
> political criminality, the sublimation of moral responsibility and the denial
> of its consequences. Israeli "anguish" always assumes moral superiority and
> hand-washing at the same time. At best it sounds to me like what during
> Watergate was called a "modified, limited, hangout." It's suspect that it's
> popular. A film that was genuinely critical of Israel, with implications made
> clear, would not get a Hollywood award. It's not for me to tell people to see
> it or not to. Personally, I won't, on principle, unless it's necessary
> preparation for a public event critically discussing it.
> 
> DG
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ---- From: Robert Naiman <naiman.uiuc at gmail.com> To:
> Peace Discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> Sent: Sunday, February 22,
> 2009 12:13:14 AM Subject: [Peace-discuss] "Waltz with Bashir" at the Art Feb
> 27.
> 
> The Israeli film "Waltz with Bashir" is at the Art starting next Friday. It
> uses (mainly) animation to depict the director's real-life story of
> recovering his suppressed memory as an IDF soldier of the IDF-supervised
> Phalangist massacres at the Palestinian refugee camps of Sabra and Chatilla
> during the 1982 invasion of Lebanon by interviewing fellow Israeli veterans.
> 
> I strongly recommend seeing it. It tries in a new way to tell this important
> story, and that would be enough; but the film is also a broader attack on
> "concentric circles" of complicity in atrocities, and as such, has obviously
> a much wider scope than just the events of Lebanon 1982...
> 


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