[Peace-discuss] WHAT accounts for the US' mindless support for Israel???

[Morton K. Brussel]

1) The congruence between the "Lobby" and U.S interests is here  
contradicted.
2) I admit thinking at the time that the Lobby indeed had a notable  
influence on Percy's defeat. Proof is indeed hard to establish; it was  
not a one issue campaign.
3) Boast it my have been, but he (Tom Dine) was proud of what his gang  
accomplished. I think that is the point intended.

--mkb



On Jan 22, 2009, at 6:21 PM, David Green wrote:

> "All the Jews"?? This is transparently boastful. Reagan sold the  
> AWACS to S.A. in order to secure oil resources after the tumultuous  
> 1970s. Congress approved the sale, Lobby notwithstanding. S.A. and  
> Israel have essentially been allies since. There isn't a shred of  
> evidence that this issue is what defeated Percy. And I guess "all  
> the Jews" couldn't defeat Reagan, and in fact the Lobby didn't try.  
> In fact, Reagan may have gotten the highest percentage of Jewish  
> votes in 1984 of any Republican in recent memory.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Ron Szoke <r-szoke at illinois.edu>
> To: Barbara kessel <barkes at gmail.com>; C. G. Estabrook <galliher at uiuc.edu 
> >
> Cc: peace-discuss <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 4:03:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] WHAT accounts for the US' mindless  
> support for Israel???
>
> From the NationMaster online encyclopedia --
>
> Re former IL Senator Charles H. Percy:
>
> Percy's first foray into electoral politics was a run for governor  
> of Illinois in
> 1964, which Percy lost to Democratic incumbent Otto Kerner. His second
> attempt, a run for senator from Illinois, succeeded two years later,  
> with Percy
> upsetting incumbent Democratic senator Paul Douglas (a former  
> professor of
> Percy's at the University of Chicago). During that campaign, his  
> daughter
> Valerie was murdered at the family home under mysterious  
> circumstances, and
> campaigning was suspended for two weeks, but then continued. Valerie  
> Percy's
> murder has never been solved, despite a long investigation. [1]
>
> Percy served in the Senate until 1984, when he was defeated for re- 
> election by
> Paul Simon, in a campaign in which Percy was attacked for an "anti- 
> Israel"
> stance because he supported the sale of AWACS planes to Saudi Arabia.
> Speaking in Toronto in 1984, AIPAC's Executive Director Tom Dine  
> boasted: "All
> the Jews, from coast to coast, gathered to oust Percy. And the  
> American
> politicians—those who hold public positions now, and those who aspire 
> —got
> the message." [2]
>
>
>
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