Fw: [Peace-discuss] Obama gets another one right

[unionyes]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: unionyes 
To: E. Wayne Johnson 
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Obama gets another one right


Abortion IS a class issue !

It is a class issue in that before Roe Vs. Wade, rich women could either buy an international airline ticket to some country that practiced abortion, OR would pay lots of money to go to a discrete private clinic in the U.S..

A poor and / or working class woman who had an unwanted pregnancy had no other option than go to a back alley butcher and take her chances OR try a self-abortion.

Hence the " magical invisible hand of the market place ".

As Carl has pointed out in the past, if a society eliminates poverty, there are fewer abortions !

My personal opinions are that abortions should be avoided and discourgaed, but I would NEVER advocate arresting a woman or a doctor / health professional for participating / performing an abortion.

What always amazed / confused me, was how people who are so concerned with abortion, care about a fetus from conception to birth, but could care less what happens to a child from birth to adulthood. Also, the irony of those who oppose abortion, yet support wars of aggression and the death penalty ???

David Johnson

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: E. Wayne Johnson 
  To: Ricky Baldwin 
  Cc: peace discuss ; socialist forum core 
  Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 5:13 PM
  Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Obama gets another one right


  Ricky,

  I find Obama to be quite consistent in his policy.  He supports the killing of innocents both at home and abroad,
  both with his warfare and with his "welfare".  One can't say that Obama is incoherent as an international minister of death.

  Abortion is the most explicit expression of racism and class warfare in our contemporary world.  
  It is the most dastardly and cowardly of all human rights violations, since it violates the most fundamental Natural Right,
  the Right to Life, and it attacks the Unborn, who are completely helpless.

  The operative social purpose of abortion is to rid the society of "human weeds".  The founders
  of Planned Parenthood identified as the poor and the Negro as undesirables who should not be allowed to reproduce.   
  Have you read Margaret Sanger's writings? Have you read about her "Negro Project"?

  I have some commentary at my website:  http://www.liberty4urbana.com/drupal-6.8/node/43
  I hope that you will watch the three videos there and then report back with your take on those issues.

  Also, Lux Libertas will be broadcast again on UPTV-6 at 10 pm Sunday night.

  Trent Cloin and I discuss the paradox and error of Abortion in America in the first 30 mins.
  In the 2nd 30 minutes we discuss MLK's April 9, 1967 speech "The Three Dimensions of a Complete Life" which was
  given in Chicago just 5 days after the "Beyond Vietnam" speech we all heard last Sunday afternoon.
  "Three Dimensions" does significantly address aspects of the "Revolution of Values" which King called for in "Beyond Vietnam".

  Wayne

  Ricky Baldwin wrote: 
    Put this one in the column of real differences, differences that matter to poor people's lives, among US presidents:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090123/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama_abortion_ban

    This is not as groundbreaking as closing Guantanamo Bay prison.  As the article says, Clinton did the same.  Still, it speaks to the tone Obama is setting in his first week in office.  And if Obama didn't do this, we'd be right to call him out for failing to act.


    Ricky


    "Speak your mind even if your voice shakes." - Maggie Kuhn 




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