Fw: [Peace-discuss] Obama gets another one right

[E. Wayne Johnson]

There certainly is an option of raising the child.

To answer your other question, "killing with welfare" == funding for 
abortion and the promotion of abortions.



unionyes wrote:
>  
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* unionyes <mailto:unionyes at ameritech.net>
> *To:* E. Wayne Johnson <mailto:ewj at pigs.ag>
> *Sent:* Friday, January 23, 2009 9:08 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Peace-discuss] Obama gets another one right
>
> Abortion IS a class issue !
>  
> It is a class issue in that before Roe Vs. Wade, rich women could 
> either buy an international airline ticket to some country that 
> practiced abortion, OR would pay lots of money to go to a discrete 
> private clinic in the U.S..
>  
> A poor and / or working class woman who had an unwanted pregnancy had 
> no other option than go to a back alley butcher and take her chances 
> OR try a self-abortion.
>  
> Hence the " magical invisible hand of the market place ".
>  
> As Carl has pointed out in the past, if a society eliminates poverty, 
> there are fewer abortions !
>  
> My personal opinions are that abortions should be avoided and 
> discourgaed, but I would NEVER advocate arresting a woman or a doctor 
> / health professional for participating / performing an abortion.
>  
> What always amazed / confused me, was how people who are so concerned 
> with abortion, care about a fetus from conception to birth, but could 
> care less what happens to a child from birth to adulthood. Also, the 
> irony of those who oppose abortion, yet support wars of aggression and 
> the death penalty ???
>  
> David Johnson
>  
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* E. Wayne Johnson <mailto:ewj at pigs.ag>
>     *To:* Ricky Baldwin <mailto:baldwinricky at yahoo.com>
>     *Cc:* peace discuss <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> ;
>     socialist forum core <mailto:sf-core at yahoogroups.com>
>     *Sent:* Friday, January 23, 2009 5:13 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: [Peace-discuss] Obama gets another one right
>
>     Ricky,
>
>     I find Obama to be quite consistent in his policy.  He supports
>     the killing of innocents both at home and abroad,
>     both with his warfare and with his "welfare".  One can't say that
>     Obama is incoherent as an international minister of death.
>
>     Abortion is the most explicit expression of racism and class
>     warfare in our contemporary world. 
>     It is the most dastardly and cowardly of all human rights
>     violations, since it violates the most fundamental Natural Right,
>     the Right to Life, and it attacks the Unborn, who are completely
>     helpless.
>
>     The operative social purpose of abortion is to rid the society of
>     "human weeds".  The founders
>     of Planned Parenthood identified as the poor and the Negro as
>     undesirables who should not be allowed to reproduce.  
>     Have you read Margaret Sanger's writings? Have you read about her
>     "Negro Project"?
>
>     I have some commentary at my website: 
>     http://www.liberty4urbana.com/drupal-6.8/node/43
>     I hope that you will watch the three videos there and then report
>     back with your take on those issues.
>
>     Also, *Lux Libertas* will be broadcast again on UPTV-6 at 10 pm
>     Sunday night.
>
>     Trent Cloin and I discuss the paradox and error of Abortion in
>     America in the first 30 mins.
>     In the 2nd 30 minutes we discuss MLK's April 9, 1967 speech "The
>     Three Dimensions of a Complete Life" which was
>     given in Chicago just 5 days after the "Beyond Vietnam" speech we
>     all heard last Sunday afternoon.
>     "Three Dimensions" does significantly address aspects of the
>     "Revolution of Values" which King called for in "Beyond Vietnam".
>
>     Wayne
>
>     Ricky Baldwin wrote:
>>     Put this one in the column of real differences, differences that
>>     matter to poor people's lives, among US presidents:
>>
>>     http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090123/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama_abortion_ban
>>
>>     This is not as groundbreaking as closing Guantanamo Bay prison. 
>>     As the article says, Clinton did the same.  Still, it speaks to
>>     the tone Obama is setting in his first week in office.  And if
>>     Obama didn't do this, we'd be right to call him out for failing
>>     to act.
>>      
>>     Ricky
>>
>>     "Speak your mind even if your voice shakes." - Maggie Kuhn
>>
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