[Peace-discuss] Re: [Peace] Re: Memorial in Champaign-Urbana

[unionyes]

 " The organization is not promoted as being a pro or anti
abortion organization, a pro or anti capital punishment organization, or a
pro or anti Christian organization.  To introduce issues related to those
things can only result in creating internal conflicts and the loss of
membership and involvement to a greater extent than already exists. "

I absolutely agree Laurie !

David Johnson

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "LAURIE SOLOMON" <LAURIE at ADVANCENET.NET>
To: "'C. G. Estabrook'" <galliher at illinois.edu>; 
<peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 10:42 PM
Subject: RE: [Peace-discuss] Re: [Peace] Re: Memorial in Champaign-Urbana


>I find it very interesting that an alleged anti-war and anti-racism group
> has allowed the introduction of tangential issues, such as the sanctity of
> all human life regardless of situations, conditions, or other factors, to
> create the sort of friction and internal fighting that will ultimately
> destroy the organization and render it ineffective as an advocacy group
> against war and racism and lessen its ability to mobilize and organize new
> membership.  The organization is not promoted as being a pro or anti
> abortion organization, a pro or anti capital punishment organization, or a
> pro or anti Christian organization.  To introduce issues related to those
> things can only result in creating internal conflicts and the loss of
> membership and involvement to a greater extent than already exists.
>
> AWARE is already a de facto and effective white only anti-racist
> organization which is unable to attract and maintain a racially diverse
> membership or effectively take and promote anti-racist positions of any
> convincing credibility due to its lack of any significant minority
> representation or ties to the various racial communities in this area. 
> Now
> it appears as if the members are intent on splitting the group apart on 
> over
> issues other than those dealing directly with anti-war questions.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net
> [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of C. G.
> Estabrook
> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 10:14 PM
> To: Stuart Levy
> Cc: amasong_singers at lists.amasong.org; Brian Dolinar; Lena Hann; Sarah
> Rasmusson; lefortune at gmail.com; hault2 at uiuc.edu; lreagan at uiuc.edu;
> srasmus3 at uiuc.edu; pmorey at illinois.edu; wantland at illinois.edu; Rachel 
> Storm;
> peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net; Hann, Lena; Paula A Treichler
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Re: [Peace] Re: Memorial in Champaign-Urbana
>
> Dr. Tiller was murdered Sunday 31 May in Wichita, Kansas.  On Monday 1 
> June
> US
> Army Pvt. William Long was shot and killed outside a military recruiting
> office
> in Little Rock, Arkansas, by a man opposed to the wars in Iraq and
> Afghanistan.
>
> If a vigil, prayerful or otherwise, is appropriate for Dr. Tiller, why is
> not
> one also being organized for Pvt. Long?  The only reason I can see is that
> the
> bien-pensant is in favor of Dr. Tiller's activities but opposed to those 
> of
> Pvt.
> Long.  The vigil therefore becomes a certain "propaganda of the deed."
>
> In default of an adequate argument, war is no more justified by the
> victimization of those who practice it than is abortion.  --CGE
>
>
>> On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 05:49:24PM -0500, Brian Dolinar wrote:
>>> I grew up in Wichita and been reeling from what's happened. I would be
>>> happy to help get the word out, call press out, and cover the event for
> the
>>> Independent Media Center. Anyone else interested?
>>>
>>> Peace, BD
>>
>>> From AWARE...
>>
>> I think this is very important, and will participate if I can, but to
> involve
>> AWARE people in planning let's include peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
> for
>> now rather than peace at lists.chambana.net -- the "peace" list is intended
> to
>> be a low-traffic list for announcements. When arrangements are set, then
>> sending those to "peace" will be a good thing.
>>
>> AWARE's monthly antiwar demonstration will be that (Sat the 6th)
> afternoon,
>> 2-4pm, though it doesn't generally have the character of a vigil/rally.
> So I
>> hope the vigil remembering Dr. Tiller can be at a different time.
>>
>> Maybe we could offer to spread word of the event at the Farmer's Market
> that
>> morning, too?
>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Rachel Storm <rachelstrm at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>>
>>>> *I am writing this e-mail in response to an e-mail sent from local
> artist
>>>>  and reproductive justice advocate Heather Ault, whose e-mail you 
>>>> should
>>>> be able to access below for reference.*
>>>>
>>>> Dear Heather and Everyone,
>>>>
>>>> I, too, was shocked and devastated by the death of Dr. George Tiller 
>>>> and
>>>> am so happy to know that you're interested in organizing something in
> his
>>>> honor. I've copied your e-mail along with this one to Lena Hann,
>>>> Education Programs Coordinator at Planned Parenthood and would love to
>>>> help organize a prayer vigil. I haven't heard of something already
>>>> underway, but perhaps Lena could let us know of whether Planned
>>>> Parenthood would be a great site for the vigil--and I think it would!
>>>>
>>>> I'll be forwarding this message around and looking forward to 
>>>> organizing
>
>>>> something for this Saturday. (I should also mention that a friend of
> mine
>>>> and my partner Michael's was just pronounced terminally ill and has 
>>>> only
>>>> a few short days to live. Because of this, I may be out of town, but I
>>>> will certainly do all I can to make the vigil happen-- even if I cannot
>>>> be present.)
>>>>
>>>> Let's open up a dialogue here about where, when, and how we can honor
> Dr.
>>>> George Tiller.
>>>>
>>>> In peace, Rachel Storm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Heather Ault <hault2 at uiuc.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello friends,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm curious if you might be interested in organizing a prayer vigil
>>>>> this Saturday at 10am, the time of Dr. Tiller's funeral? Or, perhaps
>>>>> there are efforts already underway? I'm thinking that outside of
>>>>> Planned Parenthood might be a great place to hold the event. Rachel 
>>>>> has
>>>>> been working there as an intern, and might have some ideas.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a really important time to rally together the reproductive
>>>>> rights supporters in our community and support our local Planned
>>>>> Parenthood! Rachel works there as an intern, and I'm sure will have
>>>>> some ideas. Looking forward to doing what we can do.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's a list of other events that happened on Monday night....
>>>>> http://www.feministing.com/archives/015748.html
>>>>>
>>>>> And, an article with the time of his funeral...
>>>>> http://www.kake.com/home/headlines/46727532.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking forward to hearing what you all think. Or, of others people I
>>>>> can connect with. If you are busy or out of town, please send along
>>>>> your great ideas!
>>>>>
>>>>> In solidarity, Heather
>>>>>
>>>>> ... Heather Ault MFA Candidate, School of Art and Design University of
>>>>> Illinois, Urbana-Champaign www.heatherault.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- Rachel Storm, Transnational Gender Politics WIMSE Program Assistant
>>>> Forte International Exchange Local Representative
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