[Peace-discuss] Wasn't even close

[C. G. Estabrook]

[And it's clear who's responsible for the expanded murder in AfPak and
throughout the zone of American invasion and occupation. --CGE]

...the bill would have been defeated had 19 Democrats who had opposed the bill
the first time not reversed their position. The agreement to remove the
provision banning the release of detainee abuse photos seems to have been a
factor here, but Rep. Jan Schakowsky, one of the former opponents who eventually
decided to back the bill had a simpler explanation. “I want to support my
president,” she insisted.


E. Wayne Johnson wrote:
> *<venom>*
> 
> If one can set the war aside just for the moment----
> 
> The  lies about the so-called A(H1N1) flu virus [aka Swine Flu] ought to be 
> enough by themselves to cause the huddled and befuddled masses to rise up and
>  take torch and manure fork in hand. But, it's only $25 or so for each 
> citizen, so its /very Reasonable/... You can't expect our debt-ridden masses 
> to Rise Up for twenty-five bucks.
> 
> But seriously, folks, about 35,000 people in the US die every year from 
> P.O.F. (plain old flu) and its manifold complications, every year, year after
>  year after year.  So what so unusual about this A(H1N1)?  Nothing. At.  All.
> 
> 
> About 40% of the cases of P.O.F. are caused by A(H1N1) influenza viruses. So 
> that roughly about 35 to 40 deaths every day 24/7/365 are caused by Plain Old
>  "A(H1N1)".   While a few odd cases constitutes a Pandemic.
> 
> As Costello said, "One of us is NUTS!!!"
> 
> So, one might say this whole business of the flu is what is generally 
> referred to as a Fraud,  a Scam, an Artifice. It's about the m-o-n-e-y...but,
>  it's only about a $100 for a family of 4.
> 
> Plus another $100 or so for the cronies and operatives at the IMF... [ty! :-)
>  ]
> 
> &...Enjoy your stimulus...*SUCKERS!!!!*
> 
> ****
> 
> We now return you to the War, which is already in progress.
> 
> *</venom>*
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/16/2009 7:17 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
>> [Predictable betrayal by Democratic hypocrites.  --CGE]
>> 
>> Published on Tuesday, June 16, 2009 by Agence France Presse Congress 
>> Approves $106 Bln for War
>> 
>> WASHINGTON - Congress on Tuesday gave final approval to a 106 billion 
>> dollar emergency bill to pay for the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, shore up
>>  efforts to fight swine flu, and fund US participation in the IMF.
>> 
>> By a vote of 226 to 202, lawmakers in the US House of Representatives 
>> approved a compromise version of legislation, to reconcile differing House 
>> and Senate versions.
>> 
>> Among other budget items, the measure provides 79.9 billion dollars for the
>>  wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, 7.7 billion dollars to combat the A(H1N1)
>> flu virus, and eight billion dollars for the International Monetary Fund.
>> 
>> House Democrat David Obey, a key figure during negotiations on the spending
>>  measure talks in that chamber, acknowledged some resistance among
>> lawmakers to the IMF funding, but said the monies were necessary to bolster
>> a still-sagging global economy.
>> 
>> "You know, this is a tough reality. We have to participate in the world, 
>> and when the world economy becomes shaky, we have a responsibility to 
>> ourselves to try to stabilize that world economic situation," he said.
>> 
>> The supplemental spending measure was bogged down after the Senate 
>> legislation -- over the objections of Democrats in the House -- banned 
>> public release of the controversial images allegedly showing abuse of 
>> detainees in Iraq and Afghanistan at the hands of US military personnel.
>> 
>> President Barack Obama broke the logjam last week, however, offering in a 
>> letter to negotiators, to "continue to take every legal and administrative 
>> remedy available to me to ensure the ... detainee photographs are not 
>> released."
>> 
>> The compromise bill also includes provisions on prisoners held at 
>> Guantanamo Bay, but does not include the 80 million dollars originally 
>> requested by the Obama administration to close the detention facility at 
>> the US naval base in southern Cuba, where some 230 detainees remain.
>> 
>> Under the agreement reached by the Senate and the House, a Democratic 
>> source said the government could transfer some prisoners to US soil only to
>>  face trial, although the highly sensitive issue of where they would serve 
>> out their sentence remains unresolved.
>> 
>> http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2009/06/16-10