[Peace-discuss] Anti-racism

Ricky Baldwin baldwinricky at yahoo.com
Thu Mar 5 11:54:23 CST 2009


Good point, Bob, and a lot more succinct than mine :-)

 Ricky


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From: Robert Naiman <naiman.uiuc at gmail.com>
To: C. G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu>
Cc: peace-discuss <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2009 9:42:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Anti-racism

"legal" seems too narrow. economic discrimination can persist in the
absence of laws enforcing discrimination. in fact, discrimination can
persist without being strongly reinforced by censorious attitudes,
through customs and practices that may seem nominally neutral but have
the effect of reproducing existing disparities.

for example: a legacy of British colonial policies in Northern Ireland
was that Protestant workers disproportionately held factory jobs. a
foreman comes before the workers and says,"we have a few openings."
workers tell friends, neighbors, cousins. as a result, the applicant
pool is all Protestants, and only Protestants get the jobs. no law
said only Protestants would get the jobs. and censorious attitudes
didn't have to be particularly strong for people to spread the news to
their social circles which happened to be overwhelmingly Protestant.
in such a situation, you would need affirmative action for redress. it
isn't sufficient to say, there are no discriminatory laws, and the
censorious attitudes aren't so bad.


On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:23 PM, C. G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu> wrote:
> [Racism refers to legal structures that penalize groups defined by descent.
> Racial prejudice refers to censorious attitudes towards groups defined by
> descent.  Both are present in Israel. Racism, but not racial prejudice, is
> now largely absent in the US (altho' some, like native Americans, may justly
> not think so).  --CGE]
>
>        March 4, 2009
>        SEGREGATION IN ISRAEL
>
> Israeli Association for Civil Rights
>
> Some 55 percent of Jewish Israelis say that the state should encourage Arab
> emigration;
>
> 78 percent of Jewish Israelis oppose including Arab parties in the
> government;
>
> 56 percent agree with the statement that 'Arabs cannot attain the Jewish
> level of cultural development'
>
> 75 percent agree that Arabs are inclined to be violent. Among Arab-Israelis,
> 54 percent feel the same way about Jews.
>
> 75 percent of Israeli Jews say they would not live in the same building as
> Arabs.
>
> http://prorev.com/2009/03/segregation-in-israel.html
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