[Peace-discuss] Fw: CCHCC Annual Dinner & Adbook -- AWARE

Fri Mar 27 07:09:34 CDT 2009

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at illinois.edu>
To: "LAURIE SOLOMON" <LAURIE at advancenet.net>
Cc: <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Fw: CCHCC Annual Dinner & Adbook -- AWARE

: CCHCC is pro-choice, in the euphemism of the moment.

Simply declaring it doesn't make it so. Where is the evidence? I have seen
none.
R

: As I've set out at length on this list, I'm philosophically opposed to
things
: that impoverish or end human lives, including abortion.
:
: Some of the argument is at
:
: "Abortion and the Left" <www.counterpunch.org/estabrook01172003.html>,
and
:
: "Support Our Euphemism" <www.counterpunch.org/estabrook04182003.html>.
:
: Regards, Carl
:
:
: LAURIE SOLOMON wrote:
: > It should not be necessary to point out to someone as astute as Carl
that
: > (a) no action is an action, (b) any action will impact on some
positively
: > and on others negatively, and (c) supporting a woman's right to choice
is
: > vastly different than supporting either the lack of any choice or the
: > enforcement of a choice that the participants were not participants
in.
: > Thus, not to support CCHCC because of its stance in favor of
Pro-Choice is
: > in effect serving to give defacto support to those who oppose
Pro-Choice
: > which is in effect to defacto support Pro-Life stances.  It is not a
neutral
: > action.
: >
: > Furthermore, supporting the giving the woman the choice or a say in
the
: > choice is not dictating the sort of choice that the woman has to make
nor is
: > it banning the woman from the opportunity to make any choice at all as
would
: > be the case of a Pro-life stance.  Thus, I take it that AWARE opposes
giving
: > people choices - especially the choose certain options that some
oppose on
: > religious grounds and want to impose on everyone.  The only legitimate
: > argument that could be made against the Pro-choice position is that
the
: > unborn are not given the opportunity to participate in decisions that
will
: > effect them.  This is true enough; but it is also true with respect to
so
: > many other things and choices in life that the unborn (regardless of
whether
: > or not one wants to identify them as living human beings or not) are
not
: > included in the decisions-making processes (even many of us who have
been
: > born or even born again) are left out of the major decision-making
processes
: > that decide things that will have significant future impact on us.
Who
: > legitimately and officially represents the unborn and their interests
: > (present and future) with respect to environmental policies,
decisions, and
: > actions that will be of consequence to the unborn after they have been
born?
: > I think that this argument is in practical terms a red herring.
: >
: > -----Original Message-----
: > From: peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net
: > [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] On Behalf Of C. G.
: > Estabrook
: > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 9:11 PM
: > To: Randall Cotton
: > Cc: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
: > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Fw: CCHCC Annual Dinner & Adbook -- AWARE
: >
: > The CCHCC website notes its "long track record of organizing for
women's
: > reproductive rights" --
: >
http://www.healthcareconsumers.org/index.php?action=Display%20Page&id=293
: >
: >
: > Randall Cotton wrote:
: >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "C. G. Estabrook"
: > <galliher at illinois.edu>
: >> To: "Randall Cotton" <recotton at earthlink.net> Cc:
: >> <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009
11:24 AM
: >
: >> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Fw: CCHCC Annual Dinner & Adbook -- 
AWARE
: >>
: >>
: >> : CCHCC seems to do good work in pressing for medical care -- sadly
made
: >> necessary : by the shameful record of Democrats: the administration
: > doesn't
: >> even back single : payer -- it supports insurance companies instead,
just
: > as
: >> previous : administrations have done. : : If you followed the thread
on
: >> abortion on peace-discuss some time ago, you know : that there are
some of
: > us
: >> who think (as Feminists for Life put it) that abortion : is violence
: > against
: >> women -- "women deserve better than abortion."  FFL :
: >> <www.feministsforlife.org> says that women should "refuse to choose";
: >> abortion : is proposed as a solution to social and economic problems.
: :
: > I'm
: >> against things that impoverish and end human life -- war and
capitalism --
: > :
: >> and abortion does that. I would oppose supporting organizations that
: > support
: >> it.
: >>
: >> How does CCHCC support abortion?
: >>
: >> : OTOH one might argue that supporting CCHCC is a bit far from
AWARE's
: >> purpose. : The vigorous anti-war movement that existed at the
beginning of
: >> the decade has : been erased by the workings of US politics.  It
would
: > seem
: >> important for us to : recognize how that was done. It's been a
commonplace
: >> since Tom Frank's "What's : the Matter with Kansas?" that distraction
and
: >> diversion has been a large part of : it.  The abortion issue has
added to
: > the
: >> distraction. --CGE
: >>
: >> CCHCC is also pressing hard for the full remediation of the toxic
site of
: > the
: >> old coal gasification plant that has contaminated the area around 5th
and
: >> Hill St., a poor, predominantly black area of town. I would argue
that the
: >> long-standing toxic contamination is, in good part, a victimization
based
: > on
: >> race. And we are the Anti-War *Anti-Racism* Effort.
: >>
: >> On the other hand, there are always tradeoffs in where we expend our
: > efforts
: >> and funds. Do we spend funds to oppose and increase awareness about
how
: > our
: >> tax dollars are going toward killing women and children in Iraq,
: > Afghanistan,
: >> Pakistan and Palestine or direct them to help right a racist wrong to
: > improve
: >> the health (and possibly the lifespan) of victimized people in our
local
: >> community.
: >>
: >> Not an easy question to weigh. R
: >>
: >> : Randall Cotton wrote: : > AWAREista's, please take note and think
this
: > over
: >> - I plan to bring this up : > for consideration at Sunday's meeting,
since
: >> we've done it in the (admittedly : > distant) past. R : > : > -----
: > Original
: >> Message ----- From: "Claudia Lennhoff" <claudia at shout.net> To: : >
: >> <recotton at earthlink.net> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 9:08 AM
Subject:
: > : >
: >> CCHCC Annual Dinner & Adbook -- AWARE : > : > : > : Hi Randall, : :
This
: > is
: >> Claudia Lennhoff from Champaign County Health Care : > Consumers. : I
hope
: >> you're doing well. : : I wanted to check in with you : > about the
: >> possibility of AWARE taking : an ad in this year's CCHCC Dinner : >
Adbook
: >> Program. AWARE has taken ads : in the past, but this year, we were :
>
: > trying
: >> to contact Jan Kruse and : we couldn't get hold of her, and then : >
: > someone
: >> told me that she is no : longer the Treasurer for AWARE, so that's :
> why
: >> I'm reaching out to you. : : If I need to be in touch with someone
else, :
: >>
: >> please feel free to : direct me that way. Otherwise, if you can let
me
: > know :
: >>> if y'all would : be willing to take an ad, that would be great. : :
: > Thanks
: >> : > and take care. : Claudia : ***************** : : : Dear Friend, :
: I
: >> wanted : > to let you know that CCHCC's Annual Awards Dinner is :
: > scheduled
: >> for Friday, : > April 17, 2009 at the Hawthorn Suites in : Champaign.
I
: > hope
: >> you will : > consider purchasing/donating a table, and : taking out
an ad
: > in
: >> our Adbook : > Program for the Dinner.  Below is : information on the
: > Dinner
: >> and the Adbook. : >  : : DINNER: : - Dinner tickets are $40 each. : -
A
: > table
: >> of 8 is $280. : - A : > table of 10 is $340. : : If you would like to
: >> purchase or contribute a table, : > you can reply to : me and let me
know.
: >> Organizations that contribute tables : > are thanked : in the Adbook
: > Program,
: >> as well as in the introduction to the : > dinner, : and all tables
that
: > are
: >> contributed are honorary tables and have a : > : sign on them listing
the
: >> donor (for example, The Mary Louise White : Table, : > by
CONTRIBUTOR). :
: > :
: >> ADBOOK: : Also, as part of the Annual Dinner : > celebration, we will
be
: >> producing : CCHCC's Program Guide, or Adbook. Since : > our first
Awards
: >> Dinner in : 1977, the Adbook has been an excellent : > opportunity
for
: > local
: >> : businesses and organizations to connect directly to : > CCHCC
: > supporters. :
: >> : We distribute the Adbook at the Awards Dinner and at : > other
: > membership :
: >> events throughout the year.  We also recognize : > participating :
: >> businesses, organizations and individuals in our newsletter : > that
goes
: > :
: >> out to over 7,000 members, and on our website. : : Ad prices are : >
as
: >> follows: : -- Gold page: (4.5w x 7.25h):         $400 : -- Full page:
: >
: >> (4.5w x 7.25h):         $175 : -- Half page: (4.5w x 3.5h): $110 : -- 
: >
: >> Quarter page: (2.25w x 3.5h):       $65 : : Creating the Ad: : You
are
: > free :
: >>> to create the ad yourself and send it to us. It should : be at least
300
: >> dpi : > resolution and saved as a .tiff file. You can : email it to
me. :
: > :
: >> If you do : > not want to make the ad yourself, we are more than
willing :
: > to
: >> create one : > for you. All you have to do is send me any text or :
images
: >> you'd like in the : > ad and we'll send you a proof for your :
approval. :
: > :
: >> Paying for the Ad: : : > You can mail a check to our office made out
to
: >> "CCHCC" (see address below). : : > Or you can pay online via PayPal
here:
: > : :
: >>> http://www.healthcareconsumers.org/index.php?action=Display%20Store
: :
: >> Then : > select the size ad that you would like. Layout and
submission :
: >> instructions : > are detailed on the webpage where you select the
size ad
: > :
: >> you want. : : : > Please let me know if you would like to reserve an
ad. :
: > :
: >> If you have any : > questions or need more information, please feel
free :
: > to
: >> contact me. : : : > Thank you for your support! : : Sincerely, : :
Claudia
: > :
: >> : -- : : > ****************************************** : Claudia
Lennhoff,
: >> Executive : > Director : Champaign County Health Care Consumers : 44
E.
: > Main
: >> Street, Suite : > 208 : Champaign, IL 61820 : : Phone: 217/352-6533,
ext.
: > 11
: >> : Fax: : > 217/352-9745 : E-Mail: claudia at shout.net : : Web:
: >> www.healthcareconsumers.org : >  :
: > ******************************************
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