[Peace-discuss] Fw: CCHCC Annual Dinner & Adbook -- AWARE

[C. G. Estabrook]

I don't quite follow. Who is superstitiously afraid of other people's beliefs?


Ricky Baldwin wrote:
> In any event I wasn't aware of this anti-war, anti-racist organization 
> having a litmus test related to abortion rights.  If we did, I doubt it 
> would be the one that Carl seems to assume we should have.
> 
> This superstitious fear of other people's beliefs, especially if they 
> happen to be "liberal" but not if they are decidely "conservative" or 
> "rightwing", is also a serious blind spot for some of our good members 
> who are otherwise committed to libertarian/anarchist and humanitarian 
> principles. 
> 
> Champaign County Health Care Consumers is a wonderful grassroots 
> organization - with faults, just as every organization has faults - and 
> its work on behalf of the poor and the sick in our community, Medicaid 
> recipients, Medicare recipients, and others has been and continues to be 
> invaluable.  They are basically responsible for stopping the illegal 
> conspiracy between Carle and Christie to deny care to Medicaid patients, 
> for one thing.  There is plenty more.
> 
> It's even likely that AWARE would benefit more from association with 
> CCHCC than vice versa.
> Ricky
> 
> "Speak your mind even if your voice shakes." - Maggie Kuhn
> 
> 
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> *From:* Randall Cotton <recotton at earthlink.net>
> *To:* peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:59:50 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Peace-discuss] Fw: CCHCC Annual Dinner & Adbook -- AWARE
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at illinois.edu 
> <mailto:galliher at illinois.edu>>
> To: "Randall Cotton" <recotton at earthlink.net 
> <mailto:recotton at earthlink.net>>
> Cc: <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net 
> <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>>
> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 9:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Fw: CCHCC Annual Dinner & Adbook -- AWARE
> 
> 
> : That's how "reproductive rights" is understood.
> 
> Reproductive rights is not a synonym for support of abortion. Reproductive
> rights include access to contraception and that is what CCHCC works on.
> 
> To my mind, your suggestion that CCHCC supports abortion is as yet
> unfounded.
> R
> 
> :
> :
> : Randall Cotton wrote:
> : > ----- Original Message -----
> : > From: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at illinois.edu 
> <mailto:galliher at illinois.edu>>
> : > To: "Randall Cotton" <recotton at earthlink.net 
> <mailto:recotton at earthlink.net>>
> : > Cc: <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net 
> <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>>
> : > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 8:11 PM
> : > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Fw: CCHCC Annual Dinner & Adbook -- AWARE
> : >
> : >
> : > : The CCHCC website notes its "long track record of organizing for
> women’s
> : > : reproductive rights" --
> : > :
> : >
> http://www.healthcareconsumers.org/index.php?action=Display%20Page&id=293 
> <http://www.healthcareconsumers.org/index.php?action=Display%20Page&id=293>
> : >
> : > But the next sentence is more specific.
> : >
> : > "Recent community organizing efforts have focused on access to
> affordable
> : > prescription contraceptives, and currently focus on access to
> Emergency
> : > Contraception."
> : >
> : > Nowhere on their site is there any mention of supporting abortion.
> Also,
> : > while I recall the efforts mentioned above, I don't recall any CCHCC
> : > effort supporting abortion.
> : >
> : > R
> : >
> : > : Randall Cotton wrote:
> : > : > ----- Original Message ----- From: "C. G. Estabrook"
> : > <galliher at illinois.edu <mailto:galliher at illinois.edu>>
> : > : > To: "Randall Cotton" <recotton at earthlink.net 
> <mailto:recotton at earthlink.net>> Cc:
> : > : > <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net 
> <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009
> : > 11:24 AM
> : > : > Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Fw: CCHCC Annual Dinner & Adbook --
> AWARE
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : > : CCHCC seems to do good work in pressing for medical care --
> sadly
> : > made
> : > : > necessary : by the shameful record of Democrats: the
> administration
> : > doesn't
> : > : > even back single : payer -- it supports insurance companies
> instead,
> : > just as
> : > : > previous : administrations have done. : : If you followed the
> thread
> : > on
> : > : > abortion on peace-discuss some time ago, you know : that there are
> : > some of us
> : > : > who think (as Feminists for Life put it) that abortion : is
> violence
> : > against
> : > : > women -- "women deserve better than abortion."  FFL :
> : > : > <www.feministsforlife.org <http://www.feministsforlife.org>> 
> says that women should "refuse to
> choose";
> : > : > abortion : is proposed as a solution to social and economic
> problems.
> : > : : I'm
> : > : > against things that impoverish and end human life -- war and
> : > capitalism -- :
> : > : > and abortion does that. I would oppose supporting organizations
> that
> : > support
> : > : > it.
> : > : >
> : > : > How does CCHCC support abortion?
> : > : >
> : > : > : OTOH one might argue that supporting CCHCC is a bit far from
> AWARE's
> : > : > purpose. : The vigorous anti-war movement that existed at the
> : > beginning of
> : > : > the decade has : been erased by the workings of US politics.  It
> would
> : > seem
> : > : > important for us to : recognize how that was done. It's been a
> : > commonplace
> : > : > since Tom Frank's "What's : the Matter with Kansas?" that
> distraction
> : > and
> : > : > diversion has been a large part of : it.  The abortion issue has
> added
> : > to the
> : > : > distraction. --CGE
> : > : >
> : > : > CCHCC is also pressing hard for the full remediation of the toxic
> site
> : > of the
> : > : > old coal gasification plant that has contaminated the area around
> 5th
> : > and
> : > : > Hill St., a poor, predominantly black area of town. I would argue
> that
> : > the
> : > : > long-standing toxic contamination is, in good part, a
> victimization
> : > based on
> : > : > race. And we are the Anti-War *Anti-Racism* Effort.
> : > : >
> : > : > On the other hand, there are always tradeoffs in where we expend
> our
> : > efforts
> : > : > and funds. Do we spend funds to oppose and increase awareness
> about
> : > how our
> : > : > tax dollars are going toward killing women and children in Iraq,
> : > Afghanistan,
> : > : > Pakistan and Palestine or direct them to help right a racist wrong
> to
> : > improve
> : > : > the health (and possibly the lifespan) of victimized people in our
> : > local
> : > : > community.
> : > : >
> : > : > Not an easy question to weigh. R
> : > : >
> : > : > : Randall Cotton wrote: : > AWAREista's, please take note and
> think
> : > this over
> : > : > - I plan to bring this up : > for consideration at Sunday's
> meeting,
> : > since
> : > : > we've done it in the (admittedly : > distant) past. R : > :
>  > -----
> : > Original
> : > : > Message ----- From: "Claudia Lennhoff" <claudia at shout.net 
> <mailto:claudia at shout.net>> To: : >
> : > : > <recotton at earthlink.net <mailto:recotton at earthlink.net>> Sent: 
> Wednesday, March 25, 2009 9:08 AM
> : > Subject: : >
> : > : > CCHCC Annual Dinner & Adbook -- AWARE : > : > : > : Hi Randall, :
> :
> : > This is
> : > : > Claudia Lennhoff from Champaign County Health Care : > Consumers.
> : I
> : > hope
> : > : > you're doing well. : : I wanted to check in with you : > about the
> : > : > possibility of AWARE taking : an ad in this year's CCHCC Dinner :
>  >
> : > Adbook
> : > : > Program. AWARE has taken ads : in the past, but this year, we were
> : >
> : > trying
> : > : > to contact Jan Kruse and : we couldn't get hold of her, and then :
>  >
> : > someone
> : > : > told me that she is no : longer the Treasurer for AWARE, so that's
> : >
> : > why
> : > : > I'm reaching out to you. : : If I need to be in touch with someone
> : > else, : >
> : > : > please feel free to : direct me that way. Otherwise, if you can
> let me
> : > know :
> : > : > > if y'all would : be willing to take an ad, that would be great.
> : :
> : > Thanks
> : > : > : > and take care. : Claudia : ***************** : : : Dear
> Friend, :
> : > : I
> : > : > wanted : > to let you know that CCHCC's Annual Awards Dinner is :
> : > scheduled
> : > : > for Friday, : > April 17, 2009 at the Hawthorn Suites in :
> Champaign.
> : > I hope
> : > : > you will : > consider purchasing/donating a table, and : taking
> out an
> : > ad in
> : > : > our Adbook : > Program for the Dinner.  Below is : information on
> the
> : > Dinner
> : > : > and the Adbook. : >  : : DINNER: : - Dinner tickets are $40 each.
> : -
> : > A table
> : > : > of 8 is $280. : - A : > table of 10 is $340. : : If you would like
> to
> : > : > purchase or contribute a table, : > you can reply to : me and let
> me
> : > know.
> : > : > Organizations that contribute tables : > are thanked : in the
> Adbook
> : > Program,
> : > : > as well as in the introduction to the : > dinner, : and all tables
> : > that are
> : > : > contributed are honorary tables and have a : > : sign on them
> listing
> : > the
> : > : > donor (for example, The Mary Louise White : Table, : > by
> : > CONTRIBUTOR). : :
> : > : > ADBOOK: : Also, as part of the Annual Dinner : > celebration, we
> will
> : > be
> : > : > producing : CCHCC's Program Guide, or Adbook. Since : > our first
> : > Awards
> : > : > Dinner in : 1977, the Adbook has been an excellent : > opportunity
> for
> : > local
> : > : > : businesses and organizations to connect directly to : > CCHCC
> : > supporters. :
> : > : > : We distribute the Adbook at the Awards Dinner and at : > other
> : > membership :
> : > : > events throughout the year.  We also recognize : > participating :
> : > : > businesses, organizations and individuals in our newsletter : >
> that
> : > goes :
> : > : > out to over 7,000 members, and on our website. : : Ad prices are :
>  >
> : > as
> : > : > follows: : -- Gold page: (4.5w x 7.25h):        $400 : -- Full
> page:
> : > : >
> : > : > (4.5w x 7.25h):        $175 : -- Half page: (4.5w x 3.5h): $110
> : --
> : > : >
> : > : > Quarter page: (2.25w x 3.5h):      $65 : : Creating the Ad: : You
> are
> : > free :
> : > : > > to create the ad yourself and send it to us. It should : be at
> least
> : > 300
> : > : > dpi : > resolution and saved as a .tiff file. You can : email it
> to
> : > me. : :
> : > : > If you do : > not want to make the ad yourself, we are more than
> : > willing : to
> : > : > create one : > for you. All you have to do is send me any text or
> :
> : > images
> : > : > you'd like in the : > ad and we'll send you a proof for your :
> : > approval. : :
> : > : > Paying for the Ad: : : > You can mail a check to our office made
> out
> : > to
> : > : > "CCHCC" (see address below). : : > Or you can pay online via
> PayPal
> : > here: : :
> : > : > >
> http://www.healthcareconsumers.org/index.php?action=Display%20Store
> : > : :
> : > : > Then : > select the size ad that you would like. Layout and
> submission
> : > :
> : > : > instructions : > are detailed on the webpage where you select the
> size
> : > ad :
> : > : > you want. : : : > Please let me know if you would like to reserve
> an
> : > ad. : :
> : > : > If you have any : > questions or need more information, please
> feel
> : > free : to
> : > : > contact me. : : : > Thank you for your support! : : Sincerely, : :
> : > Claudia :
> : > : > : -- : : > ****************************************** : Claudia
> : > Lennhoff,
> : > : > Executive : > Director : Champaign County Health Care Consumers :
> 44
> : > E. Main
> : > : > Street, Suite : > 208 : Champaign, IL 61820 : : Phone:
> 217/352-6533,
> : > ext. 11
> : > : > : Fax: : > 217/352-9745 : E-Mail: claudia at shout.net 
> <mailto:claudia at shout.net> : : Web:
> : > : > www.healthcareconsumers.org <http://www.healthcareconsumers.org> 
> : >  :
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