[Peace-discuss] July 4 parade

[E. Wayne Johnson]

For those who don't know me, I had better clarify that I do not 
subscribe to Lincoln's racist notions.
I send this as clarification that "Honest Abe", as they called him,
was motivated by political expediencies not egalitarian principles.

It has been suggested that Lincoln should have been Prosecuted as a War 
Criminal rather that Idolized as some sort of Hero.

Some have gone so far as to enumerate the accounts against Lincoln---

    * Violation of the Constitution and his oath of office by invading
      and waging war against states that had legally and democratically
      withdrawn their consent from his government, inaugurating one of
      the cruelest wars in recent history.
    * Subverting the duly constituted governments of states that had not
      left the Union, thereby subverting their constitutional right to
      "republican form of government."
    * Raising troops without the approval of Congress and expending
      funds without appropriation.
    * Suspending the writ of habeas corpus and interfering with the
      press without due process, imprisoning thousands of citizens
      without charge or trial, and closing courts by military force
      where no hostilities were occurring.
    * Corrupting the currency by manipulations and paper swindles
      unheard of in previous US history.
    * Fraud and corruption by appointees and contractors with his
      knowledge and connivance.
    * Continuing the war by raising ever-larger bodies of troops by
      conscription and hiring of foreign mercenaries and refusing to
      negotiate in good faith for an end to hostilities.
    * Confiscation of millions of dollars of property by his agents in
      the South, especially cotton, without legal proceedings.
    * Waging war against women and children and civilian property as the
      matter of policy



On 5/20/2009 6:46 AM, E. Wayne Johnson wrote:
> Another Lincoln quote:
>
> /"I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of 
> bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the 
> white and black races - that I am not nor ever have been in favor of 
> making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold 
> office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in 
> addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white 
> and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races 
> living together on terms of social and political equality. And 
> inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there 
> must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any 
> other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the 
> white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because 
> the white man is to have the superior position the Negro should be 
> denied everything."
>
> /-  Charleston IL September 18, 1858
>
>
>
>
> On 5/19/2009 12:17 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
>> The problem is that he probably didn't say it...
>>
>> Karen Medina wrote:
>>> "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the
>>> people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of
>>> the time."
>>> Abraham Lincoln, (attributed)
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