[Peace-discuss] July 4 parade

Wed May 20 12:59:37 CDT 2009

Here is one of my ideas for a float.  A bit subtle perhaps, but with a 
little work it could be made more overt....

A float depicting several famous American warmongers hanging in effigy....

An Arch on the front displaying the words "Behold! Amerika's War Criminals"

*"Honest Abe" Lincoln* in a prominent position as the first in a long 
line, followed in succession by
several other racist and warmongering tyrants
(banner over them "Lincoln's Real Heritage")

wrapped in a scrolls of their most damning and damnable lies...

notably some examples (there are others...and perhaps more satisfactory 
quotes...)

*William McKinley, *
("We could not leave[the Filipinos] to themselves - they were unfit for 
self-government")

*Woodrow Wilson*
(Segregation is not a humiliation but a benefit, and ought to be so 
regarded by you gentlemen.
"We must make the world safe for democracy")

*FDR*
  ("We must be the arsenal of democracy")

*Bill Clinton *
("We continue to promote independence and democracy")

*George W. Bush*
("...spreading democracy in parts of the world where people just don't 
believe it can happen.")

*Barack H. Obama*
("We should be more modest in our belief that we can impose democracy on 
a country through military force.")

******

Towering over the mess, Liberty in robes of "code" Pink wields the sword 
of Judgment.

The edges of the float are emblazoned with the words "Sic Semper 
Tyrannis - Thus Always to Tyrants - Sic Semper Tyrannis -..."

On 5/20/2009 11:49 AM, Ricky Baldwin wrote:
> I think some of those first quotes that Carl listed, judiciously 
> edited as he suggests, would maximize the potential of AWARE's entry 
> to undermine the current politics of war - which I think is usually 
> our goal.
> The longer and more complex historical 140-odd year-old debate, I 
> think, works better face-to-face or even better over email - and I 
> think we don't all agree about these issues, either, whereas I think 
> we do all agree with the sentiments expressed in the Lincoln 
> quotes Carl dug out for us ...
> Ricky Baldwin
>
> "Speak your mind even if your voice shakes." - Maggie Kuhn
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag>
> *To:* C. G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu>
> *Cc:* Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>; Karen Medina 
> <kmedina67 at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 20, 2009 8:11:29 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Peace-discuss] July 4 parade
>
> For those who don't know me, I had better clarify that I do not 
> subscribe to Lincoln's racist notions.
> I send this as clarification that "Honest Abe", as they called him,
> was motivated by political expediencies not egalitarian principles.
>
> It has been suggested that Lincoln should have been Prosecuted as a 
> War Criminal rather that Idolized as some sort of Hero.
>
> Some have gone so far as to enumerate the accounts against Lincoln---
>
>     * Violation of the Constitution and his oath of office by invading
>       and waging war against states that had legally and
>       democratically withdrawn their consent from his government,
>       inaugurating one of the cruelest wars in recent history.
>     * Subverting the duly constituted governments of states that had
>       not left the Union, thereby subverting their constitutional
>       right to "republican form of government."
>     * Raising troops without the approval of Congress and expending
>       funds without appropriation.
>     * Suspending the writ of habeas corpus and interfering with the
>       press without due process, imprisoning thousands of citizens
>       without charge or trial, and closing courts by military force
>       where no hostilities were occurring.
>     * Corrupting the currency by manipulations and paper swindles
>       unheard of in previous US history.
>     * Fraud and corruption by appointees and contractors with his
>       knowledge and connivance.
>     * Continuing the war by raising ever-larger bodies of troops by
>       conscription and hiring of foreign mercenaries and refusing to
>       negotiate in good faith for an end to hostilities.
>     * Confiscation of millions of dollars of property by his agents in
>       the South, especially cotton, without legal proceedings.
>     * Waging war against women and children and civilian property as
>       the matter of policy
>
>
>
> On 5/20/2009 6:46 AM, E. Wayne Johnson wrote:
>> Another Lincoln quote:
>>
>> /“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of 
>> bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the 
>> white and black races - that I am not nor ever have been in favor of 
>> making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold 
>> office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in 
>> addition to this that there is a physical difference between the 
>> white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two 
>> races living together on terms of social and political equality. And 
>> inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there 
>> must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any 
>> other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the 
>> white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because 
>> the white man is to have the superior position the Negro should be 
>> denied everything."
>>
>> /-  Charleston IL September 18, 1858
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/19/2009 12:17 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
>>> The problem is that he probably didn't say it...
>>>
>>> Karen Medina wrote:
>>>> "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the
>>>> people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of
>>>> the time."
>>>> Abraham Lincoln, (attributed)
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