[Peace-discuss] July 4 parade

C. G. Estabrook galliher at illinois.edu
Wed May 20 16:56:39 CDT 2009


Of course, as Thomas Aquinas points out, we read ancient philosophers not to 
find out what ancient philosophers thought but how the truth of things stands...

Morton K. Brussel wrote:
> I would suggest the evaluation of Lincoln given by Eric Foner (and 
> others) who note that one should realize that Lincoln changed during his 
> course as President. The quotation below is from 1858…  Better to refer to
> 
> 
> http://www.thenation.com/doc/20090126/foner
> 
> --mkb
> 
> 
> 
> On May 20, 2009, at 6:46 AM, E. Wayne Johnson wrote:
> 
>> Another Lincoln quote:
>>
>> /“I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of 
>> bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the 
>> white and black races - that I am not nor ever have been in favor of 
>> making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold 
>> office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in 
>> addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white 
>> and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races 
>> living together on terms of social and political equality. And 
>> inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there 
>> must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any 
>> other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the 
>> white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because 
>> the white man is to have the superior position the Negro should be 
>> denied everything."
>>
>> /-  Charleston IL September 18, 1858
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/19/2009 12:17 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
>>> The problem is that he probably didn't say it...
>>>
>>> Karen Medina wrote:
>>>> "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the
>>>> people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of
>>>> the time."
>>>> Abraham Lincoln, (attributed)
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