[Peace-discuss] July 4 parade

[Morton K. Brussel]

Pretty funny.

I had no intention to comment on which of Lincoln's quotations would  
be appropriate to show on 4 July, only on the narrowness of Wayne's  
quotation in evaluating Lincoln. I came in late into this discussion,  
I guess.

--mkb


On May 20, 2009, at 5:20 PM, John W. wrote:

>
> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Morton K. Brussel <brussel at illinois.edu 
> > wrote:
>
> I would suggest the evaluation of Lincoln given by Eric Foner (and  
> others) who note that one should realize that Lincoln changed during  
> his course as President. The quotation below is from 1858…  Better  
> to refer to
>
>
> http://www.thenation.com/doc/20090126/foner
>
> --mkb
>
>
> Now here's a marvelous idea.  AWARE could carry 4th of July placards  
> containing Web URLs like the above.  They're short, pithy, would fit  
> easily on placards; they serve as placeholders for deeper, more  
> nuanced truths; and they appeal to the technoliterate generation,  
> who could look them up immediately on their Blackberries.  Parade  
> problem ingeniously solved.
>
>
>
>
> On May 20, 2009, at 6:46 AM, E. Wayne Johnson wrote:
>
>> Another Lincoln quote:
>>
>> “I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of  
>> bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the  
>> white and black races - that I am not nor ever have been in favor  
>> of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to  
>> hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in  
>> addition to this that there is a physical difference between the  
>> white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two  
>> races living together on terms of social and political equality.  
>> And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together  
>> there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much  
>> as any other man am in favor of having the superior position  
>> assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not  
>> perceive that because the white man is to have the superior  
>> position the Negro should be denied everything."
>>
>> -  Charleston IL September 18, 1858
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/19/2009 12:17 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
>>>
>>> The problem is that he probably didn't say it...
>>>
>>> Karen Medina wrote:
>>>> "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the
>>>> people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people  
>>>> all of
>>>> the time."
>>>> Abraham Lincoln, (attributed)
>
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