[Peace-discuss] the stinkin' lincoln legacy

[E. Wayne Johnson]

Those who die (uselessly, needlessly, tragically) as a result of 
Americ(k)an Imperialism
are a great cloud of witnesses against the warmongering.

I ain't denying that.


On 5/21/2009 1:44 PM, LAURIE SOLOMON wrote:
>
> To be rather crass about all this, I have to say "so what!"  The 
> 620,000 from the Civil War plus whatever from all the other wars the 
> Us has engaged in is only a small number when compared to the number 
> of lives lost by others from other countries as a result of US wars.  
> If one holds that human lives have value than it should make no 
> difference if the lives  are Amerikan or that of others brought to an 
> end directly or indirectly because of US actions. That external death 
> toll also increases geometrically when one adjusts for the increase in 
> the world's population as compared to increases in the US population.
>
> Thus, the 620,000 figure is significant only because it is Amerikan 
> lives in which both protagonists were Amerikan; but if we were to 
> deduct the number of Southerners who dies in the war from the total 
> count and only included the soldiers from the north who represented 
> the US and not the Confederacy, which technically at the time of the 
> war was not part of the US because it had seceded from the US, then 
> the number of US citizens who dies in the Civil War was far less than 
> the 620,000.
>
> *From:* peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net 
> [mailto:peace-discuss-bounces at lists.chambana.net] *On Behalf Of *John W.
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 21, 2009 10:51 AM
> *To:* E. Wayne Johnson
> *Cc:* Peace-discuss
> *Subject:* Re: [Peace-discuss] the stinkin' lincoln legacy
>
> On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 10:37 AM, E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag 
> <mailto:ewj at pigs.ag>> wrote:
>
> Death toll from "Lincoln's War"
>
> "The number that is most often quoted is 620,000.
> At any rate, these casualties exceed the nation's loss in all its 
> other wars, from the Revolution through Vietnam."
>
> Adjusted for today's US population, the number would be over 6 million.
>
>
> I'm curious what you would have done as President in 1861, Wayne.  
> Simply let the South secede?
>

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