[Peace-discuss] president's speech on afghanistan - emergency response...

[E. Wayne Johnson]

Presidential Restraint is something that is done as they lead him away.

On 11/11/2009 9:32 PM, Karen Medina wrote:
>> won't get his 40,000 troops but only, say 10,000 -- and maybe only trainers?
>>   Would we be seen as applauding presidential restraint?
>>      
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> Short of withdrawal, I am in favor of rallying.
>
> 10,000 trainers.
> As if our military had an answer.
> And if they had an answer, as if our military could train without
> knowing the language and the culture.
> And if they knew the languages and the cultures, as if there were
> people to train. ...
> As if!
>
> As if the problem was in Afghanistan.
> As if the problem was isolated.
> As if the problem was contained or containable.
> As if the problem had a beginning .
> As if the problem was identified and spoken honestly of.
> As if.
>
> -karen medina
>
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 12:17 PM, C. G. Estabrook<galliher at illinois.edu>  wrote:
>    
>> A good idea -- but what do we do if the administration chooses one of the
>> "four options" (from its present propaganda blitz) that would say McChrystal
>>      
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>    
>> Tim Johnson seems to be committed to a demand for withdrawal, and I would
>> presume would continue to be so, regardless of what Obama does, short of
>> withdrawal.  That would seem to me to be the basis on which to organize a
>> rally.
>>
>>
>> Robert Naiman wrote:
>>      
>>> press speculation would suggest better than even odds that sometime in
>>> November, the President will give a speech announcing that he intends
>>> to send tens of thousands of more troops to Afghanistan in 2010.
>>>
>>> I propose to spread around in advance the idea that there will be
>>> a demonstration at the Vets Memorial in Urbana at 5pm the day of the
>>> president's speech.
>>>
>>> the idea of 5pm the day of the speech is to try to get into the
>>> president's news cycle. so that when people are watching the local tv
>>> news, the first thing they see is the president's announcement and the
>>> second thing they see is the local reaction: "but local protesters say
>>> that escalation is not the answer."
>>>
>>> I furthermore propose that we invite Tim Johnson to speak. he's
>>> rock-solid on this. now that's man bites dog.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Robert Naiman
>>> Just Foreign Policy
>>> www.justforeignpolicy.org
>>> naiman at justforeignpolicy.org
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