[Peace-discuss] president's speech on afghanistan (correction)

[C. G. Estabrook]

Sorry.  I made a grammatical point and then committed a solecism of my own.

Read "But do we risk praising killing just some people?"


C. G. Estabrook wrote:
> This is a poem.  (But you mean "As if ... were ...")
> 
> But do we risk praising just killing some people?
> 
> "And damn'd be him that first cries, 'Hold, enough!'?"
> 
> 
> Karen Medina wrote:
>>> won't get his 40,000 troops but only, say 10,000 -- and maybe only 
>>> trainers?
>>>  Would we be seen as applauding presidential restraint?
>>
>>
>> Short of withdrawal, I am in favor of rallying.
>>
>> 10,000 trainers.
>> As if our military had an answer.
>> And if they had an answer, as if our military could train without
>> knowing the language and the culture.
>> And if they knew the languages and the cultures, as if there were
>> people to train. ...
>> As if!
>>
>> As if the problem was in Afghanistan.
>> As if the problem was isolated.
>> As if the problem was contained or containable.
>> As if the problem had a beginning .
>> As if the problem was identified and spoken honestly of.
>> As if.
>>
>> -karen medina
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 12:17 PM, C. G. Estabrook 
>> <galliher at illinois.edu> wrote:
>>> A good idea -- but what do we do if the administration chooses one of 
>>> the
>>> "four options" (from its present propaganda blitz) that would say 
>>> McChrystal
>>
>>> Tim Johnson seems to be committed to a demand for withdrawal, and I 
>>> would
>>> presume would continue to be so, regardless of what Obama does, short of
>>> withdrawal.  That would seem to me to be the basis on which to 
>>> organize a
>>> rally.
>>>
>>>
>>> Robert Naiman wrote:
>>>> press speculation would suggest better than even odds that sometime in
>>>> November, the President will give a speech announcing that he intends
>>>> to send tens of thousands of more troops to Afghanistan in 2010.
>>>>
>>>> I propose to spread around in advance the idea that there will be
>>>> a demonstration at the Vets Memorial in Urbana at 5pm the day of the
>>>> president's speech.
>>>>
>>>> the idea of 5pm the day of the speech is to try to get into the
>>>> president's news cycle. so that when people are watching the local tv
>>>> news, the first thing they see is the president's announcement and the
>>>> second thing they see is the local reaction: "but local protesters say
>>>> that escalation is not the answer."
>>>>
>>>> I furthermore propose that we invite Tim Johnson to speak. he's
>>>> rock-solid on this. now that's man bites dog.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Robert Naiman
>>>> Just Foreign Policy
>>>> www.justforeignpolicy.org
>>>> naiman at justforeignpolicy.org
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