[Peace-discuss] Tony's comments

[unionyes]

So what is your position on Afganistan ?

Maybe I was misinformed !

Do you support a TOTAL U.S. military ( including the U.S. government paid 
mercenaries, Blackwater et al. ) withdrawl from BOTH Afganistan and Iraq ?

David J.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Gill" <docgill37 at yahoo.com>
To: "unionyes" <unionyes at ameritech.net>
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 11:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Tony's comments


David J.: Not at all clear how you've dragged me into being a supporter of 
the occupation of Iraq-- I've publicly viewed this as a farce since before 
its inception. And the consequences of that occupation are far too 
calamitous for me to be as forgiving toward Mr. Johnson as Mr. Estabrook 
seems to be.

To repeat: there is no "party line" into which I buy. When any of you walk 
from one end of Afghanistan to the other, by yourself, and spend the time 
first-hand with an extremely wide variety of Afghani people, in 500 
villages, I'll likely accord the same respect to your opinion on the subject 
as I currently do Mr. Stewart's.

David Gill

----- Original Message ----
From: unionyes <unionyes at ameritech.net>
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----- Original Message ----- From: "unionyes" <unionyes at ameritech.net>
To: <illyes at illinois.edu>
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Tony's comments


> Bob,
>
> Let's be objective about this !
>
> WE ( The U.S. Government ) have NO right to have invaded Afganistan and WE 
> certainly do NOT have ANY right to continue to occupy THEIR country !
>
> Gill is excellent on the Health Care issue, BUT, he is buying into the " 
> party line " about the continued corporate imperialistic occupation of 
> BOTH Afganistan and Iraq !
>
> The wars of terror ( NOT the war on terror ) is continueing and being 
> EXPANDED under Obama, and you know Bob as well as I do, that the money, 
> murder, and mayhem, that we perpetuate abroad, is that much less that is 
> available to spend here at " home " ( in the U.S. ) for Health Care, Green 
> Jobs, etc..
>
> David J.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <illyes at illinois.edu>
> To: <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 5:24 PM
> Subject: [Peace-discuss] Tony's comments
>
>
>> Sorry, Tony. I didn't notice your email till Dave Johnson reposted it.
>>
>> It can be argued that we owe the Afghans. We and the Russians trashed 
>> their country in a proxy war. I am of the opinion that just leaving is 
>> the best plan, but I would not reject out of hand having a small military 
>> presence for the single purpose of providing security for infrastructure 
>> projects using aid money supplied by us..
>>
>> I'm not sure how radical a Libertarian you are, but since you supported 
>> Costas, a Green, I suspect you find arguments such as the above at least 
>> worth considering.
>>
>> Bob
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