[Peace-discuss] State Department Terminates Aid to Honduras Coup Regime

[E. Wayne Johnson]

>
> Suppose that it were documented that Karzai stole the Afghan election.
> And people in Afghanistan say to the U.S., what are you going to do
> about that? And Holbrooke were to say, well, we can't interfere in the
> internal affairs of Afghanistan. Karzai is the president.
>
> Would anyone take that seriously? It wouldn't pass the laugh test.
>    
Amerikans hardly have any moral standing to be saying anything about the 
quality of
elections in any country, considering the perversion of the process that 
is tolerated here.

Call it Karma or "Sowing and Reaping", the US foreign policy is a 
blueprint for disaster.

Failing the laugh test might indeed be a valid measure of truth.

Scholars of the lowest class, when they have heard about the Tao, laugh
greatly at it. If it were not thus laughed at, it would not be fit to be 
the Tao.
(- Laozi, 42, after Legge)


On 9/4/2009 11:01 AM, Robert Naiman wrote:
> Valid for what?
>
> Suppose that it were documented that Karzai stole the Afghan election.
> And people in Afghanistan say to the U.S., what are you going to do
> about that? And Holbrooke were to say, well, we can't interfere in the
> internal affairs of Afghanistan. Karzai is the president.
>
> Would anyone take that seriously? It wouldn't pass the laugh test.
>
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 11:57 AM, C. G. Estabrook<galliher at illinois.edu>  wrote:
>    
>> If this argument is valid, why doesn't it work for Iraq and Afghanistan,
>> where "the U.S. is very deeply entangled"?  --CGE
>>
>>
>> Robert Naiman wrote:
>>      
>>> As for the cessation of U.S. military activity in the region,
>>> including removing the base in Honduras, and stopping the basing
>>> agreement in Colombia, I'm all for it.
>>>
>>> "Non-intervention," as you describe it, is not an item on the menu in
>>> this restaurant at this time. The U.S. is very deeply entangled in
>>> Honduras. It has trained and supplied the Honduran military. The
>>> choices before the U.S. are to support the coup or oppose it. The
>>> "non-intervention" you advocate, if implemented, would equal support
>>> for the coup. That's how it will be perceived - indeed, is already
>>> being perceived - in Honduras and throughout Latin America.
>>>
>>>