[Peace-discuss] Fw: Curiouser and Curiouser - SPLC

[Laurie Solomon]

I have not bought anything from anyone about anyone.  I do think that the 
militias for the most part are (1) "fundamentalist Christian," which I view 
Wayne as being also, (2) libertarian which I view Wayne as being also, (3) 
anti-government individualists, which I view Wayne as being as well, (4) 
chauvinistically pro American with respect to their patriotic "American and 
Americans are superior to everyone else" feelings even if they are also 
anti-government just as I believe Wayne to be, and (5) dogmatically 
opinionated just as I see Wayne to be.  Where they differ is that they 
(unlike Wayne) (1) are willing to advocate and engage in violence to gain 
their ends, (2) are often racist and sexist ion their behaviors and 
attitudes, (3) are in many cases poor uneducated white males who many might 
consider to be "rednecks" and "hillbillies" in their behaviors, attitudes, 
and practices, and (4)  are not inclined to read or research anything for 
supportive factually detailed evidence or any kind - correct or inaccurate, 
and (5) are typically passive followers who are easily worked into a frenzy 
by a more dominant and charismatic orator.

Given my assessment of Wayne and of the militia types, I made my statement 
that I was not at all surprised that he was pleased to personally know many 
on the list and to have worked with them.   The government and the 
establishment including the mass media hold up the military personal that 
served and especially dies or were maimed in Iraq and Afghanistan  and other 
places as heroes; but just because the establishment puts out that 
propaganda does not mean that I have to accept it  and view them as heroes 
as contrasted to regarding them as being both villains and/or fools.  I make 
my own evaluations of the information that I acquire from various sources 
including this list when I make my analyses, comparisons, and judgments.  I 
do not buy  whole hog into anything which is why most people say that I am a 
complete cynic and skeptic who accepts no set of values or beliefs as being 
the truth and who approaches things pessimistically at best with a 
willingness to be surprised if the opposite takes place.


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From: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at illinois.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 11:32 AM
To: "Laurie Solomon" <ls1000 at live.com>
Cc: "peace-discuss" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Fw:  Curiouser and Curiouser - SPLC

> Because you've bought a lot of pro-government propaganda about "the 
> Right."
>
>
> On 4/21/10 10:46 AM, Laurie Solomon wrote:
>>
>> Why am I not surprised to hear that?
>>
>> *From:* E.Wayne Johnson <mailto:ewj at pigs.ag>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 21, 2010 4:45 AM
>> *To:* peace discuss <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
>> *Subject:* [Peace-discuss] Curiouser and Curiouser - SPLC
>>
>> Our old friends at the Southern Poverty Law Center have issued a gallery
>> of Patriots (Fairly Dangerous Persons).
>> Although no one from Champaign-Urbana made the list or even got a
>> dishonourable mention, I am pleased to say that I know Nine of these
>> people personally and have worked with them.
>> http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/publications/the-patriots
>
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