[Peace-discuss] Fw: Curiouser and Curiouser - SPLC

[E.Wayne Johnson]

The people who I know that are on the list are often quite radical in their 
level of commitment but none of the ones I know are willing to resort to 
violence to accomplish their means and quite frequently speak out against 
violence.

As the situation in the USA continues to decline, the resulting unrest, 
frustration, and despair is indeed liable to erupt into violence or 
scattered incidents of violence in the next year or so.  I dont think that 
many of the people that SPLC has fingered want violence, but SPLC and other 
similar groups would certainly enjoy that opportunity for exposure and 
fundraising.

I take offense to your suggestion that education might make one less of a 
hillbilly redneck or that being one is a bad thing.  :-)






----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Laurie Solomon" <ls1000 at live.com>
To: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at illinois.edu>
Cc: "peace-discuss" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Fw: Curiouser and Curiouser - SPLC


>I have not bought anything from anyone about anyone.  I do think that the 
>militias for the most part are (1) "fundamentalist Christian," which I view 
>Wayne as being also, (2) libertarian which I view Wayne as being also, (3) 
>anti-government individualists, which I view Wayne as being as well, (4) 
>chauvinistically pro American with respect to their patriotic "American and 
>Americans are superior to everyone else" feelings even if they are also 
>anti-government just as I believe Wayne to be, and (5) dogmatically 
>opinionated just as I see Wayne to be.  Where they differ is that they 
>(unlike Wayne) (1) are willing to advocate and engage in violence to gain 
>their ends, (2) are often racist and sexist ion their behaviors and 
>attitudes, (3) are in many cases poor uneducated white males who many might 
>consider to be "rednecks" and "hillbillies" in their behaviors, attitudes, 
>and practices, and (4)  are not inclined to read or research anything for 
>supportive factually detailed evidence or any kind - correct or inaccurate, 
>and (5) are typically passive followers who are easily worked into a frenzy 
>by a more dominant and charismatic orator.
>
> Given my assessment of Wayne and of the militia types, I made my statement 
> that I was not at all surprised that he was pleased to personally know 
> many on the list and to have worked with them.   The government and the 
> establishment including the mass media hold up the military personal that 
> served and especially dies or were maimed in Iraq and Afghanistan  and 
> other places as heroes; but just because the establishment puts out that 
> propaganda does not mean that I have to accept it  and view them as heroes 
> as contrasted to regarding them as being both villains and/or fools.  I 
> make my own evaluations of the information that I acquire from various 
> sources including this list when I make my analyses, comparisons, and 
> judgments.  I do not buy  whole hog into anything which is why most people 
> say that I am a complete cynic and skeptic who accepts no set of values or 
> beliefs as being the truth and who approaches things pessimistically at 
> best with a willingness to be surprised if the opposite takes place.
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at illinois.edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 11:32 AM
> To: "Laurie Solomon" <ls1000 at live.com>
> Cc: "peace-discuss" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Fw:  Curiouser and Curiouser - SPLC
>
>> Because you've bought a lot of pro-government propaganda about "the 
>> Right."
>>
>>
>> On 4/21/10 10:46 AM, Laurie Solomon wrote:
>>>
>>> Why am I not surprised to hear that?
>>>
>>> *From:* E.Wayne Johnson <mailto:ewj at pigs.ag>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 21, 2010 4:45 AM
>>> *To:* peace discuss <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
>>> *Subject:* [Peace-discuss] Curiouser and Curiouser - SPLC
>>>
>>> Our old friends at the Southern Poverty Law Center have issued a gallery
>>> of Patriots (Fairly Dangerous Persons).
>>> Although no one from Champaign-Urbana made the list or even got a
>>> dishonourable mention, I am pleased to say that I know Nine of these
>>> people personally and have worked with them.
>>> http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/publications/the-patriots
>>
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