[Peace-discuss] The "two faces" of Winston Churchill

[C. G. Estabrook]

       ...  gentle nurse,
I pray thee, leave me to myself to-night,
For I have need of many orisons
To move the heavens to smile upon my state,
Which, well thou know'st, is cross, and full of sin.

Use every man after his desert, and who should scape whipping?
Use them after your own honour and dignity.
The less they deserve, the more merit is in your bounty.
Take them in.

David is in fact engaged in a godly enterprise - getting things right,
rather than acquiescing in an imperial mythology that promotes
the murder of innocents today.  That surely is sin.


On 8/16/10 11:11 AM, John W. wrote:
> I hope G*d is more merciful in His assessment of the two of you than you are 
> in your assessment of virtually every human being on earth, living and dead.  
> Meanwhile, though, it must be glorious to possess such Olympian wisdom derived 
> from books.
>
> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 11:04 AM, C. G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu 
> <mailto:galliher at illinois.edu>> wrote:
>
>      Nicely put.
>
>
>     On 8/16/10 10:42 AM, David Green wrote:
>
>         http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/
>
>         I don't think that there is as much irony or mystery about WC as
>         Greenwald and
>         NYT reviewer Hari make out to be. Hari refers disparigingly to
>         Nicholson Baker's
>         "Human Smoke," which I think gets WC about right. He was a monster.
>         There is no
>         more reason to revere Churchill for "defeating" Hitler than there is
>         to revere
>         Stalin, who in fact really did defeat him. I was not surprised by the NYT
>         review, only a little surprised by Hari, and somewhat more surprised by
>         Greenwald's take.
>
>         DG
>
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