[Peace-discuss] Quo usque tandem abutere, America, patientia nostra?

[E.Wayne Johnson]

That's quite good, sir.  Rejoinder to that rejoinder seems thin although necessitated.

Maybe they should change the name to Audacia.

"I act a bit?".

Dr. King was fond of quoting:

auferens bella usque ad finem terrae arcum conteret 

et confringet arma et scuta conburet in igne

vacate et videte quoniam ego sum Deus 

exaltabor in gentibus exaltabor in terra

*

The war on terra.  We may be bozos on this bus, but the gentibus has a different populace.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at illinois.edu>
To: "E.Wayne Johnson" <ewj at pigs.ag>
Cc: "peace discuss" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 4:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Quo usque tandem abutere, America, patientia nostra?


>    How long, America, will you abuse our patience?
>    How long will your madness continue to frustrate us?
>    When is there to be an end to your violent "Audacity of Hope"?
>    --after Cicero...
> 
> On 7/22/10 3:29 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
>> Quam diu etiam furor iste tuus nos eludet? quem ad finem sese effrenata iactabit
>> "AUDACIA SPEI"?
>>
>>
>> On 7/22/10 2:17 PM, E.Wayne Johnson wrote:
>>> Glenn Greenwald:
>>>
>>> That's really the only relevant question: how much longer will Americans sit
>>> by passively and watch as a tiny elite become more bloated, more powerful,
>>> greedier, more corrupt and more unaccountable -- as the little economic
>>> security, privacy and freedom most citizens possess vanish further still? How
>>> long can this be sustained, where more and more money is poured into Endless
>>> War, a military that almost spends more than the rest of the world combined
>>> <http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/01/26/defense>,
>>> where close to 50% of all U.S. tax revenue goes to military and intelligence
>>> spending
>>> <http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MnYI3_FRbbQ/S17GGwQ1TrI/AAAAAAAACSY/X2bs4rpZpWU/s1600-h/spending.png>,
>>>
>>> where the rich-poor gap grows seemingly without end
>>> <http://obrag.org/?p=1758>, and the very people who virtually destroyed the
>>> world economy wallow in greater rewards than ever
>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/18/business/18wall.html>, all while the
>>> public infrastructure (both figuratively
>>> <http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE61K2I520100221> and literally
>>> <http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/going-backwards-say-good-bye-to.html>)
>>> crumbles and the ruling class is openly collaborating on a bipartisan,
>>> public-private basis even to *cut* *Social Security benefits*?
>>>
>>> * * * * *
>>>
>>> The answer, unfortunately, is probably this: a lot longer. And one primary
>>> reason is that our media-shaped political discourse is so alternatively
>>> distracted and distorted that even shining light on all of this matters
>>> little. /The New York Times/' Peter Baker had a good article
>>> <http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/18/weekinreview/18baker.html?partner=rss&emc=rss>
>>> this weekend on how totally inconsequential squabbles dominate the news more
>>> or less continuously: last week's riveting drama was the bickering between
>>> the White House and Nancy Pelosi over Robert Gibbs' warning that Democratic
>>> control of the House was endangered. Baker quotes Democratic strategist Chris
>>> Lehane as follows: "Politics in D.C. have become Seinfeldesque. *Fights about
>>> nothing*."
>>>
>>> http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/07/19/secrecy/index.html
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