[Peace-discuss] curiouser and ives

[C. G. Estabrook]

As you always say, "The history of all hitherto existing society is the history
of class struggles."


On 7/26/10 3:11 PM, John W. wrote:
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> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 2:43 PM, C. G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu
> <mailto:galliher at illinois.edu>> wrote:
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> Ives come to think the author is a favor-Currier...
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> (Come on, John. He gave you a bit of a hint...
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> <http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_071910/content/01125106.guest.html>.)
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>  Ah, well.  The hint was too blatant.  I thought Wayne was subtler than
> that. I couldn't help but notice this line from Rush's rant: "Washington is
> dominated politically and socially by Democrats, by the left.  The
> Republicans also live there."  Huh?  What? He's right about the ruling class
> thing, of course.  But NEWS FLASH:  In any reasonably complex society on
> earth, in any time period you care to name, there will ALWAYS be a ruling
> class.
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> On 7/26/10 2:28 PM, John W. wrote:
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>
> Uhhhh....the "awful" Frank Rich?  Or maybe Jim Hightower?
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> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 12:07 PM, E.Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag
> <mailto:ewj at pigs.ag> <mailto:ewj at pigs.ag <mailto:ewj at pigs.ag>>> wrote:
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> well i meant curiouser and curiouser... But can you guess the author of
> these words?
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> Differences between Bushes, Clintons, and Obamas are of degree, not kind.
> Moreover, 2009-10 establishment Republicans sought only to modify the
> government’s agenda while showing eagerness to join the Democrats in new
> grand schemes, if only they were allowed to.”  Well, this resonated with me
> because I plaintively say, “Why do you Republicans continue to accept their
> premise on everything and then deal with it on the margins?  ...Why do we
> accept the premise that there must be a stimulus package?  Why do they set
> the agenda?”  This piece is partially the answer: They’re all part of the
> ruling class.  The Republicans want to be even more accepted in the ruling
> class.  They want to be even more powerful.  They want to be considered part
> of it.  They want to be in the clique…
>
> ... Now, here we have people like Trent Lott, everybody’s assumed is a
> conservative all along, now being threatened by the arrival of a Tea Party
> caucus, ah, ah, ah, ah, “‘We don’t need a lot of Jim DeMint disciples. As
> soon as they get here, we need to co-opt them.’  But Lott said he’s not
> expecting a tea-party sweep. ‘I still have faith in the visceral judgment of
> the American people.’”
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> So all of you looking at the Tea Party thinking it’s the Republican Party’s
> salvation, the Republican members of the ruling class are just as threatened
> by the Tea Party as the Democrats are.  Because the Tea Party is outsiders;
> the Tea Party is not in the big clique; the Tea Party does not want to be in
> the big clique.  The Tea Party wants to wrest power away from the big
> clique.
>
> and the author?
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> Rush Limbaugh?  What?
>