[Peace-discuss] Fw: [cchcc-l] Saturday's Health Reform Update &Take Action!

[Laurie Solomon]

I was only explaining to Karen one of the reasons that CCHCC is taking the 
the position it is and not claiming that it is my position or that I support 
it.

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From: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at illinois.edu>
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 5:34 PM
To: "Laurie Solomon" <ls1000 at live.com>
Cc: "peace-discuss" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Fw: [cchcc-l] Saturday's Health Reform Update 
&Take	Action!

> If the bill(s) pass, the Democrats will say, "We've taken care of 
> healthcare,"
> and nothing more will happen.  The bills have all the flaws that Nader 
> described
> on Democracy Now last week.
>
> If the bills are defeated, expectations have risen high enough that a 
> serious
> cross-party demand for Medicare for all can be mounted, against the 
> furious
> resistance of the insurance companies.  --CGE
>
>
> Laurie Solomon wrote:
>>
>> CCHCC feels that, despite all its limitations (which are too numerous to 
>> mention and quite profound), it is the best that we can get; and it will 
>> help
>> a large number of their clients.  I, for one, seriously question that 
>> assessment given that the devil is in the details of how it is going to 
>> be interpreted and implemented and not in the written details of the bill 
>> itself
>> as well as its lack of any real enforcement provisions.
>>
>> For example, there is nothing in the bill that I can tell which 
>> establishes a
>> standardized set of criteria and methods that  (1) define the 
>> underwriting policies and decisions that an insurance company makes 
>> regarding individual claims, which currently are deemed by the companies 
>> as proprietary so as to be kept from customers and state regulators;  (2) 
>> no provisions for making said policies, criteria, and processes 
>> transparent and challengeable non-proprietary information; and (3) no 
>> provisions for monitoring, enforcing,
>> or punishing non-compliance with said stipulated provisions.  It does no 
>> good
>> if insurance companies can establish and implement their own secret
>> proprietary rules, criteria, methods, procedures, and practices which 
>> they
>> then use to deny claims and reject the full payment of the claims of 
>> claimants.  It is meaningless to have a set of statute driven standards 
>> and criteria if regulators have no authority to control, monitor, and 
>> enforce them on a practical everyday basis with respect to their 
>> implementation in daily organizational practices.
>>>
>>> -------------------------------------------------- From: "Karen Medina"
>>> <kmedina67 at gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 1:02 PM To:
>>> "Peace-discuss List" <Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> Subject: Re:
>>> [Peace-discuss] [cchcc-l] Saturday's Health Reform Update &Take Action!
>>>
>>>> I am with you, David. This is not reform. This bill will hurt people 
>>>> and
>>>> help the insurance companies. The people need universal health care.
>>>>
>>>> I am surprised and confused as to why the CCHCC supports the bill.
>>>>
>>>> I am pretty sure Jim Duffet's group members (for health care reform) do
>>>> not support the bill.
>>>>
>>>> -karen medina
>
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