[Peace-discuss] [Fwd: [lbo-talk] the communitarian case for drones]

Stuart Levy slevy at ncsa.uiuc.edu
Tue Mar 30 18:48:04 CDT 2010


On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 06:36:07PM -0500, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
> Search Etzioni's websites, I suppose. He's been saying this nonsense for a 
> while. Doug just got hit with some of it. I'll ask him if you like.

Wow.  Do you think Amitai Etzioni means to be serious here??
The language is so pat ["everyone is entitled but..."],
it sounds as though he's setting up a straw man
for parody.  This could come from the Onion.

> Stuart Levy wrote:
>> Wow -- love this bit: "everyone is entitled to human rights, but..."
>> Where are the web sites referred to?  "we provide a blow by blow response, 
>> here" etc.?
>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 05:18:26PM -0500, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
>>> {Doug Henwood of Left Business Observer treats some academic dreck with 
>>> the degree of respect it deserves.  --CGE}
>>>
>>>
>>> [I always hated this communitarian shit, but this takes the cake. For 
>>> some reason this asshole added me to his email list.]
>>>
>>> From: Amitai Etzioni <icps at GWU.EDU>
>>> Date: March 30, 2010 5:03:51 PM EDT
>>> To: COMNET at HERMES.GWU.EDU
>>> Subject: The case for drones. Comments please.
>>> Reply-To: Amitai Etzioni <icps at GWU.EDU>
>>>
>>> Jane Mayer made the liberal case against drones in The New Yorker 
>>> (October 26, 2009). We provide a blow by blow response here and discuss 
>>> the issue on Talk of the Nation, here. Everyone is entitled to human 
>>> rights, but we cannot wait for terrorists to strike before we go after 
>>> them. And, although little known, the US military has a carefully crafted 
>>> procedure for determining which drone strikes are allowed and which would 
>>> cause too much collateral damage.
>>>
>>> The onus for avoiding collateral damage altogether is on the terrorists. 
>>> They have to stop exploiting their status as civilians, stop using 
>>> civilians as human shields, and homes--as headquarters, as locations to 
>>> store ammunition and for snipers to ply their deadly trade. (For more, 
>>> see Security First: For a Muscular, Moral Foreign Policy [Yale 2007] and 
>>> our website.)
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>>> Amitai Etzioni
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>>> The George Washington University
>>> 1922 F St NW, Rm 413
>>> Washington, DC 20052
>>> ph: 202.994.8190
>>> fax: 202.9941606
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>>>
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