[Peace-discuss] ron paul - we can do better with peace

[John W.]

On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 7:39 AM, E.Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag> wrote:

>  *Idiocracy is one of the must-see movies.*
>
> *Idiocracy* is a 2006 comedic film, directed by Mike Judge<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Judge>and starring Luke
> Wilson <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_Wilson> and Maya Rudolph<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_Rudolph>
> .
>
> The film tells the story of two ordinary people<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everyman>who are taken into a top-secret military
> hibernation <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibernation> experiment that
> goes awry, and awaken 500 years in the future. They discover that the world
> has degenerated into a dystopia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dystopia>where
> advertising <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advertising>, commercialism<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commercialism>,
> and cultural anti-intellectualism<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-intellectualism>run rampant and
> dysgenic <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dysgenic> pressure has resulted in
> a uniformly stupid human society devoid of individual responsibility or
> consequences.
>
>
I see.  So in this film, the military's hibernation experiment began in
roughly 1510, then?  It was the British military, I suppose?




>   ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* John W. <jbw292002 at gmail.com>
> *To:* E.Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag>
> *Cc:* Peace Discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
>   *Sent:* Saturday, May 01, 2010 6:27 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Peace-discuss] ron paul - we can do better with peace
>
>
> On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 5:13 AM, E.Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag> wrote:
>
>
>
>>  I think the point is that most of the Tea Partiers dont much like the
>> Republicans either.
>>
>
> I guess we'll have to disagree on that one.  They certainly seem to like
> the Republican slogans.
>
>
>
>>  Toys and Junk Food sounds good to me.  Stop by some time with
>> some watermelon and a few bottles of beer and we''ll do some karaoke.
>>
>
> Now there's an offer it will be extremely difficult to refuse.  ;-)
>
>
>
>>  Like I say though, these people lack good info.
>>
>
> Why?  It's certainly available, particularly in the internet era.  Why
> don't they read?  Why do they cling to the notion that Faux News is "fair
> and balanced"?  Why do they believe Rush Limbaugh's crap?  Why are they
> incapable of critical thinking?
>
>
>
>>  They arent violent.  If they were, there'd be outbreaks already.
>>
>
> There are.  There have been.  They're not organized, though.  Generally a
> single gun nut loses his mind and "goes postal".  It's very difficult to
> organize collective armed violence against the government in the United
> States, in case you hadn't noticed.
>
>
>
>>  But I dont think that they ought to be pushed any further.
>>
>
> Crap, there are virtually no limits to which the "great masses" of
> Americans can be pushed.  Especially when the propaganda is so pervasive, as
> Carl is always pointing out.  The masses LOVE propaganda as long as it
> caters to their insecurities.  They eat it up.
>
>
>
>>  In what ways are you like the Tea Partiers, John?
>>
>
> Precious few.  I like liberty as well as the next guy, but not to the
> exclusion of the collective good.  I recognize that most of our politicians
> are liars, but I have a quite different idea than the Tea Partiers do as to
> what our "leaders" are lying ABOUT.
>
>
>
>>  Have you seen the movie "Idiocracy"?
>>
>
> No.  Should I?  Who made it?  What's it about?
>
>
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>
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>
>>  *From:* John W. <jbw292002 at gmail.com>
>> *To:* E.Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag>
>> *Cc:* Peace Discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
>>   *Sent:* Saturday, May 01, 2010 5:45 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Peace-discuss] ron paul - we can do better with peace
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 3:49 AM, E.Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>  John,
>>> I think you are pulling my leg but I'll bite.
>>>
>>
>> Not at all.  I think anyone who would respect Sarah Palin and/or Dubya
>> Jr., identify with them, and vote for such characters, is just plain
>> stupid.   Stupid people are intimidated by smart people, and feel safe
>> around people who are as stupid as themselves, even if they are being led
>> over a precipice.
>>
>>
>>
>>>  Thomas Jefferson wrote regarding Shay's Rebellion:
>>>
>>> "...a little rebellion now and then is a good thing.
>>> The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of
>>> patriots and tyrants."
>>>
>>
>> *yawn*  You and Carl both have your favorite little quotations that you
>> trot out all the time, but they're usually pretty irrelevant.  They're full
>> of sound and fury, signifying nothing.   Who exactly is refreshing the tree
>> of liberty with the blood of patriots and tyrants?  Sarah Palin and Dubya
>> Jr.?  Surely you jest.
>>
>>
>>
>>>  There is a great mass of people in the USA who feel that their
>>> government is not responsive to them and takes
>>> their tax money and spends it for things they dont want.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, yes, yes.  And if that "great mass of people" paid no federal taxes
>> whatsoever, they'd spend most of their newly-found surplus on toys and junk
>> food, be as broke as before, and want the government to help them out when
>> they got in financial trouble.
>>
>> Plus they're too stupid to realize that, even as their (mostly Republican)
>> politicians are telling them how they're in favor of "smaller government",
>> the very same politicians are in fact increasing the size and complexity of
>> government and taking MORE of their tax dollars.  Ronnie Reagan, the "Great
>> Communicator", was a prime example.
>>
>>
>> They are the the masses of America and they perceive that
>>
>>>  the country is run by elite and immoral people who want to teach
>>> queer-ism and candy-ass Hillary-ism in their schools.  Again I think that
>>> Sarah comes off as being as fake as a 3 -dollar bill clinton but many of
>>> those people think that Sarah is like them.
>>>
>>
>> Precisely.  And the characteristic they most share is STUPIDITY.
>>
>>
>>
>>>  Hillary is not like them.  Obama is not like them,  Obama is not only
>>> black but he's a mulatto and an uppity one at that.
>>>
>>
>> Now there's a catchy phrase.  I need add no commentary to that.
>>
>>
>>
>>>  These people dont generally have good information.
>>>
>>
>> Precisely.
>>
>>
>>
>>>    They arent violent by nature
>>>
>>
>> Oh?  Sez who?
>>
>>
>>
>>>  but if they had the full scoop, then the elite bastards had sure enough
>>> better buy handguns.
>>>
>>
>> Why?  The "great masses of people" aren't violent by nature, right?
>>
>> Urg.
>>
>>
>>
>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>> *From:* John W. <jbw292002 at gmail.com>
>>> *To:* E.Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag>
>>> *Cc:* Peace Discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
>>>  *Sent:* Saturday, May 01, 2010 3:50 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Peace-discuss] ron paul - we can do better with peace
>>>
>>>
>>>   On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 8:38 PM, E.Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>  I heard Sarah Palin give her speech in St; Paul in 2008 and I dont
>>>> like her much at all.  But people relate to her because they think that she
>>>> is "one of us" (wrong or right).  Actually W had the same sort of appeal.
>>>> Whether she or W or any of the other cartoon characters are real people or
>>>> just electrons in a machine is irrelevant.  The people identify with the
>>>> character just like the kids relate to Mighty Mouse, Mickey Mouse, or
>>>> XiYangYang.  Ideology is bunk.  Manipulation of the masses is the only thing
>>>> that matters.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And what, pray, is the characteristic in Sarah Palin and Dubya Jr. that
>>> causes "people" to relate to them, to think that they are "one of us"?  What
>>> are the "people" identifying with?
>>>
>>>

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