[Peace-discuss] Hello how ah ya.

E.Wayne Johnson ewj at pigs.ag
Wed May 5 00:32:53 CDT 2010


I have been reading the "History of the Insurrection in China" written in 
1854 which is about the early years of the Tai Ping Tian Guo.  It's pretty 
interesting.  Although the French romanization of the Chinese is a bit 
strange and inconsistent, I can figure out what they mean by the names and 
places and know some of those places.

The Tai Ping Kingdom was successful against the degenerating Qing Dynasty 
and took over most of south China before being crushed by the British army 
in the 1860's.

Sun Yat-Sen was heavily influenced by one of the surviving old Tai Ping-ers.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at illinois.edu>
To: "Karen Medina" <kmedina67 at gmail.com>
Cc: "peace-discuss" <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Hello how ah ya.


> The joke (I don't think much more is meant) is that Sun Yat-sen was the 
> first President of the Republic of China.
>
>
> On 5/4/10 11:36 PM, Karen Medina wrote:
>> Wow, one 100-year-old story, and that is the best evidence they have
>> for saying it was a common occurrence.
>>
>> On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 11:19 PM, E.Wayne Johnson<ewj at pigs.ag>  wrote:
>>> I ran across this in reading and couldnt pass up the chance to "share" 
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Sun Yat-sen (Sun Zhongshan) was born on 12 November 1866 to a Hakka 
>>> (KeJia)
>>> family in the village of Cuiheng, Xiangshan (later Zhongshan) county,
>>> Guangzhou prefecture, Guangdong province.
>>>
>>> ... In March 1904, he obtained a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, issued 
>>> by
>>> the Territory of Hawaii, stating he was born on November 24, 1870 in 
>>> Kula,
>>> Maui.
>>>
>>> http://www.scribd.com/doc/9830547/Sun-Yatsen-Certification-of-Live-Birth-in-Hawaii
>
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