[Peace-discuss] [Peace] 4th of July: "150 Years of Local Heroes"

C. G. Estabrook galliher at illinois.edu
Mon May 10 18:53:39 CDT 2010


Because I wish Lincoln were closer to his mythologized image.

Instead, he was a backwoods Bismarck, the single individual most responsible for 
the deaths of hundreds of thousands of his fellow citizens and the degradation 
of many more in an unnecessary war. --CGE


On 5/10/10 6:24 PM, Laurie Solomon wrote:
> By the way Carl, why are you AFRAID that I am right?  My being right is
> not going to bring about the end of the world - oh but that it could.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at illinois.edu>
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 3:38 PM
> To: "Laurie Solomon" <ls1000 at live.com>
> Cc: "Ricky Baldwin" <baldwinricky at yahoo.com>; <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] 4th of July: "150 Years of Local
> Heroes"
>
>> I'm afraid Laurie's right about Lincoln; it took some substantial
>> effort (and
>> selective quotation) to include him in an anti-war float last year.
>>
>> It's not much problem to find local heroes of the civil rights
>> movement; it's
>> more trouble perhaps to find local heroes of the anti-war movement.
>>
>> At the AWARE meeting last night, someone mentioned the pacifist
>> Dorothy Day (a
>> student at UIUC). Others suggested we interpret "local" widely enough to
>> include Jane Addams, William Jennings Bryan, Eugene Debs, etc.
>>
>> I think it would be wise not to include any living figures, not only
>> to help
>> recover local anti-war history, but also to avoid current debates over
>> what
>> constitutes an anti-war position. --CGE
>>
>>
>> On 5/10/10 12:37 PM, Laurie Solomon wrote:
>>> Some how Stuart seems to think that Lincoln was anti-war AND
>>> anti-racist;
>>> this is a questionable assumption and assertion at best. Aside from
>>> people
>>> like John Lee Johnson and others that I have mentioned in a previous
>>> post,
>>> there is Vernon L. Barkstall.
>>>
>>
>

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