[Peace-discuss] [Peace] 4th of July: "150 Years of Local Heroes"

Laurie Solomon ls1000 at live.com
Mon May 10 20:27:19 CDT 2010


I guess I find it an interesting choice of words.  From what you say ( 
"Because I wish Lincoln were closer to his mythologized image"), I might 
have selected to say "Unfortunately, Laurie might be right about Lincoln" or 
"Sadly, Laurie...." rather than "I am afraid...."

But all of this is rather trivial; it was not meant as a put down.  I was 
only curious about the choice of wording.

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From: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at illinois.edu>
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 6:53 PM
To: "Laurie Solomon" <ls1000 at live.com>
Cc: <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] 4th of July: "150 Years of Local 
Heroes"

> Because I wish Lincoln were closer to his mythologized image.
>
> Instead, he was a backwoods Bismarck, the single individual most 
> responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of his fellow citizens 
> and the degradation of many more in an unnecessary war. --CGE
>
>
> On 5/10/10 6:24 PM, Laurie Solomon wrote:
>> By the way Carl, why are you AFRAID that I am right?  My being right is
>> not going to bring about the end of the world - oh but that it could.
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at illinois.edu>
>> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 3:38 PM
>> To: "Laurie Solomon" <ls1000 at live.com>
>> Cc: "Ricky Baldwin" <baldwinricky at yahoo.com>; 
>> <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] 4th of July: "150 Years of Local
>> Heroes"
>>
>>> I'm afraid Laurie's right about Lincoln; it took some substantial
>>> effort (and
>>> selective quotation) to include him in an anti-war float last year.
>>>
>>> It's not much problem to find local heroes of the civil rights
>>> movement; it's
>>> more trouble perhaps to find local heroes of the anti-war movement.
>>>
>>> At the AWARE meeting last night, someone mentioned the pacifist
>>> Dorothy Day (a
>>> student at UIUC). Others suggested we interpret "local" widely enough to
>>> include Jane Addams, William Jennings Bryan, Eugene Debs, etc.
>>>
>>> I think it would be wise not to include any living figures, not only
>>> to help
>>> recover local anti-war history, but also to avoid current debates over
>>> what
>>> constitutes an anti-war position. --CGE
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/10/10 12:37 PM, Laurie Solomon wrote:
>>>> Some how Stuart seems to think that Lincoln was anti-war AND
>>>> anti-racist;
>>>> this is a questionable assumption and assertion at best. Aside from
>>>> people
>>>> like John Lee Johnson and others that I have mentioned in a previous
>>>> post,
>>>> there is Vernon L. Barkstall.
>>>>
>>>
>>
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