[Peace-discuss] [Discuss] [sf-core] Fwd: yesterday's article on massive racial inequality in wealth

Marti Wilkinson martiwilki at gmail.com
Fri May 21 13:25:05 CDT 2010


*Defenders of the administration (and its filthy war) are eager to brand its
critics as racists. If they all aren't racists, then their complaints that
Obama is working against the popular interest and for an economic elite - on
the war, on healthcare, on the banks, etc. - might not be able to be
dismissed so easily.*


Where did I defend the administrations involvement in the war in my previous
statement?  What I'm SAYING is the US is still just as racist as it was 40
years ago, but it surfaces in far more subtle ways. I haven't read the
latest by Roediger, but there is a book called "The wages of whiteness: Race
and the making of the American working class" which also addresses both race
and class. There is also "Whiteness: The communication of social identity"
edited by Thomas Nakayama and Judith Martin and that is also a good
resource.

FYI: Greg Brown was developmentally disabled and one of the things that does
not get discussed is how often the mentally and developmentally disabled can
be harassed/mistreated by police officers.  My brother is disabled and, when
he was younger, he was targeted by a police officer until my father
confronted the cop and put a stop to it. Mr. Brown could very well have been
my brother.



On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:25 AM, C. G. ESTABROOK <cge at shout.net> wrote:

> Are you *denying* that "US society is much less racist - and much more
> unequal - than it was 40 years ago"?
>
> Defenders of the administration (and its filthy war) are eager to brand its
> critics as racists. If they all aren't racists, then their complaints that
> Obama is working against the popular interest and for an economic elite - on
> the war, on healthcare, on the banks, etc. - might not be able to be
> dismissed so easily.
>
>
>
> On 5/21/10 10:53 AM, Marti Wilkinson wrote:
>
>> "US society is much less racist - and much more unequal - than it was 40
>> years ago"
>>
>>
>> http://louisproyect.wordpress.com/2009/09/04/a-critique-of-walter-benn-michaels/
>>
>>  I really think a lot of white intellectuals like Walter Benn Michaels are
>> truly out of touch with the way things are in this culture today. While we
>> do
>> have a black president, we also have a tea party and birther movement that
>> reflects the ingrained racism that is still prevalent today. The problem
>> with
>> focusing on class differences alone is it gives white self-described
>> liberals
>> a free pass to avoid looking at how their own whiteness (and privilege),
>> plays a role here.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:36 AM, C. G. ESTABROOK <cge at shout.net
>> <mailto:cge at shout.net>> wrote:
>>
>> US society is much less racist - and much more unequal - than it was 40
>> years
>> ago.
>>
>> In 1970 the election of a black president was unthinkable, but in that
>> year
>> the distribution of wealth (Gini index) was at its least unequal in the
>> 20th
>> century. Today it's back to where it was in the late 1920s, and the
>> concentration of wealth in fewer and fewer hands is not only continuing
>> but
>> accelerating.
>>
>> "...anti-racism today performs at least one of the same functions that
>> racism
>> used to — it gives us a vision of our society as organized racially
>> instead
>> of economically — while adding another function — it insists that racism
>> is
>> the great enemy to be overcome. But all the anti-racism in the world won't
>> take any money away from the rich and won't give any of it to the poor."
>> [Walter Benn Michaels]
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/21/10 9:47 AM, Ricky Baldwin wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Very interesting article. Good points. It's always good for Americans to
>> see
>> this kind of discussion and realize we don't do too well when it comes to
>> this kind of basic economic "fairness," no matter how much the blowhards
>> talk
>> about the "land of opportunity." Our system just doesn't serve most people
>> too well - but then, we know that. It's just good to have the numbers.
>>
>> On the numbers, I have to take issue with the "typical" white/black family
>> stats, though - and not just to be picky with words. I think it gives a
>> false
>> impression.
>>
>> The article doesn't say, but if what's meant is "average" (mean) then it
>> isn't "typical" at all in an economy with vast inequalities like the kind
>> described in the article. We can, and do (as the article points out), have
>> a
>> small number of extremely wealthy people and a huge number of people
>> essentially left out of that massive accumulation. What that amounts to is
>> the "average" (mean) is skewed upwards - making it look like more people
>> are
>> better off than we are.
>>
>> "Typical" here could also be median, a.k.a. the middle number if you
>> arrange
>> all the wealth from highest to lowest, but I doubt it. It seems too high
>> given the inequality the article describes. Even if so, I'd argue that if
>> the
>> range of wealth is very wide, then the median isn't very "typical" either.
>>
>> Maybe I'm missing something. I'm not 100% awake yet.
>>
>> Ricky
>>
>> "Speak your mind even if your voice shakes." - Maggie Kuhn
>>
>> --- On *Thu, 5/20/10, Belden Fields /<a-fields at uiuc.edu
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>>
>>
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