[Peace-discuss] [Peace] Nov. 1 / Anarchists Against the Wall (Israeli who refused compulsory military service)

[David Green]

Thanks Karen. I would suggest, however, that it's not clear if there should be 
events that Zionists want to come to, such as that last evening. If so, then 
let's have an old-fashioned teach-in, with extensive time for various views to 
be expressed--where pro-Palestinians don't have to be so "concise," and where 
Zionists have to defend their reprehensivle views.



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From: Karen Medina <kmedina67 at gmail.com>
To: Peace-discuss List <Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
Sent: Tue, November 2, 2010 10:29:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Nov. 1 / Anarchists Against the Wall 
(Israeli who refused compulsory military service)

Thanks David for this report!
I met the speaker on Saturday, and she had obviously thought long and
hard about passive resistance and rock throwing. She is very animate
that she would never throw rocks. But in the big picture, the rocks
are nothing compared to the bullets.

BTW, she said a few other things about the bullets:
* rubber bullets are bullets with rubber around them. They are still
bullets, and if they hit someone correctly, they can kill.
* Also, little .22 are being used a lot. The way they were described
made them sound like bb -- and they can kill if they hit someone in
the head or just right in the chest.

And, yes, Sarah Lazare is full of energy and drive.

IMHO, It is a far, far, better thing that the Zionists are coming to
the events than if they ignored the events.

-karen medina

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:09 AM, David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I attended this event last evening. It was well-attended, well over 100,
> perhaps close to 150. The young Israeli woman who spoke was difficult to
> hear, but very articulate. During the "question" period, she was joined by
> an equally articulate Palestinian student. Nevertheless, the 15 or 20
> pro-Israel students were allowed to dominate the "question" period with
> their Hasbara statements, and the speakers were forced into addressing
> mostly the nature of Palestinian violence. To the young woman's credit, she
> repeatedly emphasized the nature of Israel as a terror state.
>
> After the event, Sara Lazare of Students for Justice in Palestine revealed
> that she had received threats prior to the event. She did not elaborate
> on this. I would hope that the nature and possible sources of these threats
> would be made public, and addressed by the administration (LOL).
>
> It needs to be said that students who defend Israel in the manner of these
> "questioners" truly operate at no higher moral level than "good Germans" in
> the 1930s. Yes, they're brainwashed--that's the point. But the nature of the
> "question" period didn't allow for this point to be clearly made. It should
> be--these students are shamefully ignorant and racist. The students who
> attended in order to try to learn something were in a sense short-changed,
> because the historical context just wasn't made clear enough by the
> speakers, although that's not a criticism of them.
>
> Sara Lazare was previously an undergraduate on this campus, and while gone
> did some fine work with the Iraq war resistance movement. She's now in grad
> school in Middle East studies. She's an important person for the antiwar
> movement to have on this campus.
>
> I personally think that SJP and the local pro-Palestinian movement, such as
> it is, needs to move beyond being "reactive," either in the case of events
> like Daniel Pipes, or even in terms of events that provide an opportunity
> for Zionist students to badger visitors like the woman last evening. There's
> just no point any longer. If there is broader support for the Palestinians
> and against US support for Israel, then it's time to have proactive, regular
> public displays of that view, especially in ways that challenge the
> cowardice of Jewish institutions on campus and in the community.
>
> DG
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