[Peace-discuss] [Peace] Nov. 1 / Anarchists Against the Wall (Israeli who refused compulsory military service)

[Karen Medina]

Program format is important in instances like this.
I am not sure which would be the best format

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:42 AM, David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Thanks Karen. I would suggest, however, that it's not clear if there should
> be events that Zionists want to come to, such as that last evening. If so,
> then let's have an old-fashioned teach-in, with extensive time for various
> views to be expressed--where pro-Palestinians don't have to be so "concise,"
> and where Zionists have to defend their reprehensivle views.
> ________________________________
> From: Karen Medina <kmedina67 at gmail.com>
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> Sent: Tue, November 2, 2010 10:29:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Nov. 1 / Anarchists Against the Wall
> (Israeli who refused compulsory military service)
>
> Thanks David for this report!
> I met the speaker on Saturday, and she had obviously thought long and
> hard about passive resistance and rock throwing. She is very animate
> that she would never throw rocks. But in the big picture, the rocks
> are nothing compared to the bullets.
>
> BTW, she said a few other things about the bullets:
> * rubber bullets are bullets with rubber around them. They are still
> bullets, and if they hit someone correctly, they can kill.
> * Also, little .22 are being used a lot. The way they were described
> made them sound like bb -- and they can kill if they hit someone in
> the head or just right in the chest.
>
> And, yes, Sarah Lazare is full of energy and drive.
>
> IMHO, It is a far, far, better thing that the Zionists are coming to
> the events than if they ignored the events.
>
> -karen medina
>
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:09 AM, David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> I attended this event last evening. It was well-attended, well over 100,
>> perhaps close to 150. The young Israeli woman who spoke was difficult to
>> hear, but very articulate. During the "question" period, she was joined by
>> an equally articulate Palestinian student. Nevertheless, the 15 or 20
>> pro-Israel students were allowed to dominate the "question" period with
>> their Hasbara statements, and the speakers were forced into addressing
>> mostly the nature of Palestinian violence. To the young woman's credit,
>> she
>> repeatedly emphasized the nature of Israel as a terror state.
>>
>> After the event, Sara Lazare of Students for Justice in Palestine revealed
>> that she had received threats prior to the event. She did not elaborate
>> on this. I would hope that the nature and possible sources of these
>> threats
>> would be made public, and addressed by the administration (LOL).
>>
>> It needs to be said that students who defend Israel in the manner of these
>> "questioners" truly operate at no higher moral level than "good Germans"
>> in
>> the 1930s. Yes, they're brainwashed--that's the point. But the nature of
>> the
>> "question" period didn't allow for this point to be clearly made. It
>> should
>> be--these students are shamefully ignorant and racist. The students who
>> attended in order to try to learn something were in a sense short-changed,
>> because the historical context just wasn't made clear enough by the
>> speakers, although that's not a criticism of them.
>>
>> Sara Lazare was previously an undergraduate on this campus, and while gone
>> did some fine work with the Iraq war resistance movement. She's now in
>> grad
>> school in Middle East studies. She's an important person for the antiwar
>> movement to have on this campus.
>>
>> I personally think that SJP and the local pro-Palestinian movement, such
>> as
>> it is, needs to move beyond being "reactive," either in the case of events
>> like Daniel Pipes, or even in terms of events that provide an opportunity
>> for Zionist students to badger visitors like the woman last evening.
>> There's
>> just no point any longer. If there is broader support for the Palestinians
>> and against US support for Israel, then it's time to have proactive,
>> regular
>> public displays of that view, especially in ways that challenge the
>> cowardice of Jewish institutions on campus and in the community.
>>
>> DG
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karen medina
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