[Peace-discuss] Help the Palestinians. Go See This Movie

[Robert Naiman]

Where is the evidence? It's here:

http://www.justvision.org/budrus

Watch the trailer. See the movie.


On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 5:37 PM, E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag> wrote:
> The shark is the "Axis of Evil" American interventionalist foreign policy
> which is dependent
> upon the material support of the American people.
>
> It is pitifully naive to think that any sort of non-violent action will
> cause that shark to relax its jaws.
>
> Just because it worked for some remote village in Palestine is no indication
> that it will work
> in the USA or for Palestine either.
>
> Carl should correct me but it seems that the historic
> precedent says that either the people rise up themselves and correct the
> problem, OR the
> situation continues to rot and weaken from the inside to the point that some
> outside force
> slips in and hits them over the back of the head with a sock full of
> skubulos.
>
> Where is the evidence that non-violent resistance ends an occupation?
>
> On 11/9/2010 9:48 PM, Robert Naiman wrote:
>
> In your analogy to the Israeli occupation, who exactly is "Mister
> Shark"? Is it an individual Israeli soldier, his commander, the
> Israeli government? Does "Mister Shark," in the case of the Israeli
> occupation, also include the Israeli public? The US government? The US
> public? Does it include us? Relative to the Palestinians, are we also
> "Mister Shark"?
>
> What's the context here? Some folks have made a *documentary* about
> the *successful* nonviolent struggle of a Palestinian village to save
> their land from confiscation for the Separation Barrier. It's a
> strange context in which to say "nonviolence never works." It did
> work. Not in some far away time and place, but in the Palestinian
> village of Budrus, in the occupied West Bank.
>
> Now, the fact that it worked in Budrus is no guarantee that it will
> work in some other Palestinian village. In particular, the Israeli
> occupation could escalate its repression. Indeed, it has.
>
> But: the occupier is not the only side that has the possibility of
> escalation. The nonviolent resistance could also escalate.
>
> How do you escalate nonviolent resistance?
>
> One way is to involve more people.
>
> And that's the point, for me, of promoting the movie Budrus in the
> United States: to get more people involved on the side of the
> Palestinian nonviolent resistance, so that it stands a better chance
> of succeeding.
>
> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 11:14 PM, E.Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag> wrote:
>
>
> Seriously, Bob, I am quite interested in non-violent action and positively
> detest violent action.
> I am repulsed by the notion of violence almost as much as I am by the threat
> thereof.
>
> But, I perceive that the concept of any captive people being freed from an
> occupation by nonviolent
> action is ridiculous.
>
> Hey!  Mister Shark!  I'm being nice and non-violent.  Would you like to spit
> my leg out now?  I'm going to be late for Oprah if you don't let me go real
> soon.
>
> The only problem with your suggestion (as I see it), Bob, is that it fails
> to take into
> account the characteristics of sharks, the theoretical fundamentals of
> communication with sharks, and the characteristics of ostensibly bitable
> appendages, among other things, perhaps...
>
> However, other than that, I am sure that Palestine can be freed quickly and
> the whole world can participate in a historic rewrite of the future - at
> home, on the couch, in front of their TV sets, when this movie comes out on
> DeeVeeDee.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Naiman" <naiman.uiuc at gmail.com>
> To: "Peace-discuss List" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 6:17 AM
> Subject: [Peace-discuss] Help the Palestinians. Go See This Movie
>
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>
>
> If many Americans see the movie Budrus, about the successful
> nonviolent resistance of Palestinians and Israelis against the route
> of the Israeli "separation barrier" and its confiscation of
> Palestinian land in the West Bank village of Budrus, it could lead to
> concrete changes in U.S. policy that would lead to real improvement in
> the ability of Palestinians in the West Bank to free themselves from
> the occupation by nonviolent action.
>
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-naiman/help-the-palestinians-go_b_780609.html
>
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> Robert Naiman
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Robert Naiman
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Just Foreign Policy
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