[Peace-discuss] ACLU liberals

[E. Wayne Johnson]

The ACLU, like the NRA, will take Anyone as a member.
I offer as evidence the fact that I was a member of the ACLU in the mid '90s

But David Green makes a good point.

Mr. Gehrig is a highly visible member of ACLU.

Gehrig obviously supports American imperial militarism, and the current 
wars specifically
to the point of inciting public mockery of those who are proactively 
anti-war.

Gehrig, in the typical paradoxical authoritarianism of "liberals" seeks 
to squelch the voices of
those he disagrees with.  The Orwellian shift of their appellation seems 
less and less paradoxical
as one gets used to how these "liberals" operate.

One still wonders at times if the "A" in ACLU stands for "Anti-" or for 
Authoritarian.
As "American" becomes more and more associated with Authoritarianism, 
narrow bounds,
and narrower minds, perhaps it doesnt matter much to bring any clarity.

Since "you know them by their fruits", Mr. Gehrig as a prominent ACLU'er
represents the produce of the ACLU.  It doesnt matter what is happening 
nationally
because at the local level that the people get to see who
the ACLUers really are.  Right now everyone can see that the ACLU are 
purveyors
of bitter mocking invective and hip urban neologisms like "squashrot".


On 11/20/2010 5:20 AM, Robert Naiman wrote:
> I object to your guilt-by-association. If you want to slam one person
> with whom you have an issue, that's one thing. It's another thing to
> slam an organization, based on your interaction with one individual
> who is in the organization.
>
> If you follow what the national ACLU has been putting out on the
> policies of the Obama Administration, on detention, on assassination,
> on military commissions, on accountability for torture, etc. I think
> one would be hard pressed to argue that they have been pulling their
> punches.
>
> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 3:07 PM, David Green<davegreen84 at yahoo.com>  wrote:
>    
>> The ACLU stands for one of many possible fundamental principles. Too many of
>> its members think that that is the only one worth standing for, and wish to
>> cover themselves with glory for doing so. It's become a pretty transparent
>> business, and Gehrig's behavior exposes one aspect of that--he's an overt
>> racist vis a vis the Palestinians, and he's especially annoyed that I showed
>> him to be a liar regarding the death of Rachel Corrie. Bob, I would think
>> that that would concern you regarding the credibility of the ACLU, as well
>> as the substantive issue I've raised in my letter; likely I would think
>> wrong. Nothing about liberals seems to bother you.
>>
>> DG
>> ________________________________
>> From: Robert Naiman<naiman.uiuc at gmail.com>
>> To: David Green<davegreen84 at yahoo.com>
>> Cc: Peace Discuss<peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
>> Sent: Fri, November 19, 2010 12:14:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] ACLU liberals
>>
>> Is the ACLU responsible for what David Gehrig writes in letters to the
>> DI? When he volunteered to sit at the table, should they have said:
>> now, not just anyone can sit at this table. What kind of letters do
>> you plan to write to the DI?
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:03 PM, David Green<davegreen84 at yahoo.com>  wrote:
>>      
>>> The last time I saw David Gehrig, he was manning the ACLU table at the
>>> Farmers Market. I hear that he has resigned from the Urbana City Council.
>>> Here's his comment in response to my DI letter:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.dailyillini.com/opinions/letters-to-the-editor/2010/11/17/exploitation-of-war-for-fun-profit-disturbing#comments-title
>>>
>>>
>>> "Is the Daily Illini really so hard up for letters that it must print
>>> near-weekly squashrot from the fringe flake David Green? Has he absolutely
>>> no idea of how he comes across? I've never seen anyone so brilliantly
>>> incarnate every facet of the far-right parody of what a dour, smug,
>>> holds-the-copyright-on-sanctimonious leftist is like. Is he some kind of
>>> counter-Colbert, except that nobody's in on the joke?"
>>>
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>>
>> --
>> Robert Naiman
>> Policy Director
>> Just Foreign Policy
>> www.justforeignpolicy.org
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>>
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>> Afghanistan
>> http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/act/feingold-mcgovern
>>
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