[Peace-discuss] fourth amendment, and more, violated.

[C. G. Estabrook]

Count on good liberals to knuckle under and advise acquiescence when the 
government says it's serious.

People who urge serious opposition are excoriated with stupid phrases like 
"Planet Wingnut."

With advice like this, it's hardly surprising that Americans can't muster the 
sort of opposition that we see in France, Germany, or even the UK.

On 11/23/10 7:03 PM, Robert Naiman wrote:
>  Advising people what their legal rights are does not equal telling
>  them to submit, except on Planet Wingnut.
>
>  On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 6:49 PM, E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag>
>  wrote:
> > The Orwellian lock-step Democrats seem to be offering a united
> > front of pathetic submission to the Invasion of the Body Snatchers
> > at TSA.
> >
> > Even the generally sassy FireDogLake is advising people to submit.
> >
> > Jane Hamster is offering not the 4th amendment: The right of the
> > people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects,
> > against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated,
> > and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by
> > Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be
> > searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
> >
> > FDL is advising people to "Know your Rights" (in other words, No
> > Rights)
> >
> > http://static1.firedoglake.com/1/files/2010/11/KnowYourRights-full.jpg
> >
> >
> > Bless their cowardly little hearts.  May their chains rest lightly upon
> > them.
> >
> >
> > My take on this matter is that any response to TSA that is milder
> > than at minimum a very polite "Fuck You! You're not going to do
> > it!" is an egregious and embarrassing surrender.
> >
> > Wayne Johnson

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