[Peace-discuss] A strange line of questioning

[C. G. Estabrook]

  If we're going to take this seriously, we should start at the top.  Obama's 
ordering the extra-judicial execution of an American citizen is unquestionably 
an incitement to illegal and imminent violence.  He should of course be in jail.


On 10/12/10 5:39 PM, Morton K. Brussel wrote:
> Inflammatory language: A jury of wise, informed, tolerant, humane, uncommitted 
> people ought to decide. The Supreme Court?
>
> "Shoot that man, because he is evil"—and the man is killed by someone who 
> listens. Any responsibility?
>
> --mkb
>
> On Oct 12, 2010, at 5:05 PM, David Green wrote:
>
>> Subsequent to a recent letter in the DI and threatening phone calls to my 
>> place of work, I was told by a co-worker that I might have to accept 
>> responsiblity of something should result from these threats--especially if 
>> these actions are provoked by perceived insults, rather than--say--the truth. 
>> But it's not clear to me that either Beck or me should be held to that 
>> standard, and made responsible for the reactions of others. I tend to think 
>> that in other case, violence or the threat of violence needs to be explained 
>> in the larger context: the economy, the wars, the perceived powerlessness of 
>> some individuals vis a vis the state and the corporations that constitute the 
>> centers of power.
>>
>>
>> At any rate, when Goodman plays a "progressive," she loses a lot of clarity 
>> and credibility, in my opinion.
>>
>>
>> DG
>>
>>     **
>>
>>     *http://www.democracynow.org/2010/10/12/progressive_hunter_gunman_cites_glenn_beck*
>>
>>
>>     **
>>
>>     *AMY GOODMAN:* Can you really hold Glenn Beck, Michael Savage,
>>     responsible for this man’s violent actions, who was violent way back?
>>
>>     *JOHN HAMILTON:* Right. Well, I think we have to ask ourselves that. And
>>     again, I think we need to return to the—to two major points here. One,
>>     many of the conspiracy theories and the conspiracism that you find on
>>     Glenn Beck’s program is simply not true. It’s easily refuted. At Media
>>     Matters, you have teams of researchers every day debunking many of the
>>     things that Glenn Beck says. And, for example, the Petrobras conspiracy
>>     theory, the idea that George Soros was profiting from the oil disaster in
>>     the Gulf of Mexico simply wasn’t true. When you couple that with the
>>     demonization of people like Soros, who when Glenn Beck talks about him,
>>     he compares him to a gangster, he affects his accent, he’s even insulted
>>     the man’s nose hair—I mean, he says that he’s trying to bring—sometimes
>>     he says socialism, sometimes he says fascism, to the United States.
>>
>>
>>         *GLENN BECK:* How about Tides? How about indoctrination? Forget God,
>>         it’s “In George Soros, we trust.” Oh, he’s going to get his. He is
>>         going to get his.
>>
>>
>>     *JOHN HAMILTON:* So, when you couple the mistruths with the demonization,
>>     I think it is time that we ask ourselves, do these media figures, do
>>     these demagogues, bear some responsibility for the actions of their audience?
>>
>> *AMY GOODMAN:* John Hamilton is author of the piece "Progressive Hunter." 
>> It’s at Media Matters <http://mediamatters.org/research/201010110002>, and 
>> we’ll link to it here at /Democracy Now!/
>>
>>
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