[Peace-discuss] [Peace] "Chief" Homecoming event is CANCELLED!!
C. G. Estabrook
galliher at illinois.edu
Thu Oct 14 19:47:24 CDT 2010
"Why can't I do what I want with what I own?" is the bleat of owners since
there were any.
Of course we'll wait, cap in hand, in hope that they'll do the nicest things...
On 10/14/10 7:42 PM, Robert Kutz wrote:
> This, of course, requires some reasonable argument for why a demand against
> the sale of merchandise bearing the Chief - or the promotion of a dance using
> the Chief logo in advertising and decoration - is really 'property besting
> speech' in any meaningful sense.
>
> Cursing the nasty lot of capitalists seems a bit of an odd way to go about
> bemoaning the unexplained cancellation of a racist event. Again, maybe we can
> wait and see how free speech was actually violated (whether within or without
> a framework rejecting the concept of the trademark as unjust) before clucking
> our tongues at the whole dirty affair.
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 6:31 PM, C. G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu
> <mailto:galliher at illinois.edu>> wrote:
>
> Property bests speech (whether bad or good) - a capitalist principle:
>
> "Those who own the country ought to govern it.” -- John Jay (1745-1829),
> first Chief [sic] Justice of the US Supreme Court
>
>
>
> On 10/14/10 7:09 PM, Robert Kutz wrote:
>> Declaring the triumph of censorship is perhaps premature given no
>> explanation for the cancellation. I think we can afford at least a
>> reserved and tentative pleasure in this case.
>>
>> And in response to the obvious pressure the University was placing on the
>> 'last dance' event - anybody is certainly free to discuss or reminisce
>> about the Chief as they wish, but I see no reason to believe that the
>> University's 'trademark' claim is illegitimate. I can talk about Mickey
>> Mouse all I like, but it's hardly a violation of free speech that I can't
>> paint him on the side of my shop.
>>
>> It's debatable whether this is an issue of free speech at this point, but
>> it's hardly a matter of debate whether we can be happy that this
>> celebration of a racist caricature will apparently not proceed as
>> planned, I think.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 5:30 PM, C. G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu
>> <mailto:galliher at illinois.edu>> wrote:
>>
>> Censorship triumphs? Are we proud?
>>
>> (And doesn't canceled have one L?)
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/14/10 6:24 PM, Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
>>> Just heard on Ch 3 News at 6p that the "Chief" Event scheduled for
>>> the Assembly Hall during Homecoming Weekend has been CANCELLED!!! No
>>> explanation, other than that it hasn't been (isn't expected to be?)
>>> rescheduled. We win again? Still? Some more???
>>> --Jenifer
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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