[Peace-discuss] [Peace] "Chief" Homecoming event is CANCELLED!!

[C. G. Estabrook]

  "Why can't I do what I want with what I own?" is the bleat of owners since 
there were any.

Of course we'll wait, cap in hand, in hope that they'll do the nicest things...


On 10/14/10 7:42 PM, Robert Kutz wrote:
> This, of course, requires some reasonable argument for why a demand against 
> the sale of merchandise bearing the Chief - or the promotion of a dance using 
> the Chief logo in advertising and decoration - is really 'property besting 
> speech' in any meaningful sense.
>
> Cursing the nasty lot of capitalists seems a bit of an odd way to go about 
> bemoaning the unexplained cancellation of a racist event. Again, maybe we can 
> wait and see how free speech was actually violated (whether within or without 
> a framework rejecting the concept of the trademark as unjust) before clucking 
> our tongues at the whole dirty affair.
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 6:31 PM, C. G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu 
> <mailto:galliher at illinois.edu>> wrote:
>
>     Property bests speech (whether bad or good) - a capitalist principle:
>
>     "Those who own the country ought to govern it.”  -- John Jay (1745-1829),
>     first Chief [sic] Justice of the US Supreme Court
>
>
>
>     On 10/14/10 7:09 PM, Robert Kutz wrote:
>>     Declaring the triumph of censorship is perhaps premature given no
>>     explanation for the cancellation. I think we can afford at least a
>>     reserved and tentative pleasure in this case.
>>
>>     And in response to the obvious pressure the University was placing on the
>>     'last dance' event - anybody is certainly free to discuss or reminisce
>>     about the Chief as they wish, but I see no reason to believe that the
>>     University's 'trademark' claim is illegitimate. I can talk about Mickey
>>     Mouse all I like, but it's hardly a violation of free speech that I can't
>>     paint him on the side of my shop.
>>
>>     It's debatable whether this is an issue of free speech at this point, but
>>     it's hardly a matter of debate whether we can be happy that this
>>     celebration of a racist caricature will apparently not proceed as
>>     planned, I think.
>>
>>     On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 5:30 PM, C. G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu
>>     <mailto:galliher at illinois.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>         Censorship triumphs? Are we proud?
>>
>>         (And doesn't canceled have one L?)
>>
>>
>>
>>         On 10/14/10 6:24 PM, Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
>>>         Just heard on Ch 3 News at 6p that the "Chief" Event scheduled for
>>>         the Assembly Hall during Homecoming Weekend has been CANCELLED!!! No
>>>         explanation, other than that it hasn't been (isn't expected to be?)
>>>         rescheduled. We win again? Still? Some more???
>>>          --Jenifer
>>>
>>>
>>
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